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    Getting static Spitfire fuselage frames made

    Can anyone suggest a sensibly priced source for these please?

    Thanks

    #2
    I think your biggest issue is that whether static or airworthy, the labour required to make these from aluminium is the same. Or are you wanting them in wood?

    FB

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      #3
      Aluminium FB. One difference is that commercial aluminium is a lot softer and easier to work...

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        #4
        But still requires the tooling! The difference is negligible.

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          #5
          Exactly, probably virtually the same as if likely to have to support its own weight, your softer commercial ally would then have to be heat treated to take the loads required. Tooling costs will be considerable, and those already with said tooling aren’t going to let it be used cheaply.

          FB
          Last edited by Fournier Boy; 19th June 2018, 15:10. Reason: Awful use of the English language

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            #6
            Wasnt there a company in the Isle of Wight that did Spitfire airframes?

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              #7
              Thanks for your input guys. I’m afraid you are way off the mark if you think you can compare the fabrication of most static vs airworthy projects. I had some airworthy frame 11 parts made fairly recently and the workmanship is exquisite.

              I never heard of any of the homebuilt Spitfire cockpit projects having parts heat treated either. For most applications this simply isn’t necessary.

              So to avoid any further thread creep, does anyone know of anyone doing these please? I’m not interested in getting into an argument about the details and costs. They are my problem, no one elses.

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                #8
                Malcolm Goosey was flogging some frames at aerojumbles until quite recently. He may be worth contacting via his website?
                The garage that keeps on giving.

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                  #9
                  Thanks AM

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                    #10
                    He sold those frames. Make them yourself Elliott! It’s cheaper and not that difficult- for a static!
                    Tony Dyer
                    https://www.facebook.com/TheAirDefen...homepage_panel

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                      #11
                      Get a set of drawings,print off full size,glue onto wood,cutout and cleanup,trace onto 1mm aluminium adding flange thickness of 15mm,cutout and clean,sandwich between wooden formers,hammerform,drill out rivet holes and do lightening holes,frame complete..Easy.😁
                      "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
                      http://spitfirea58-27.blogspot.com.au/

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                        #12
                        Parnell Engineering in Cornwall?

                        edit: These guys:
                        https://www.facebook.com/ParnallEngineeringAdvanced/
                        Last edited by ZRX61; 19th June 2018, 22:50.
                        If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: It's all balls. RJM.

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                          #13
                          Hi Elliot, Martin Philips was knocking out frames a while ago , he may have a few left, Likewise Mr Adlam, also I believe the Boultbee group were/are producing a spitfire simulator, they maybe able to help; most of these non airworthy frames are made out of NS4 (5152?) perfectly strong enough to take it's own weight! in fact it's actually quite difficult to get "soft" aluminium these days as almost all of it is heat treated to T6 hardness
                          Why be your own worse critic, that's what the forum is for.

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                            #14
                            Thanks everyone who responded. I think I found what I was looking for

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                              #15
                              On Dutch auction site Marktplaats.nl a frame 11 is for sale. Possibly from a Dutch Spit. It has some damage but is mostly complete.
                              Cheers
                              Cees

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                                #16
                                no interest in an original piece of Spitfire then?
                                Cees

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                                  #17
                                  Yes Cees, it's already been sold. Thanks for the heads up by the way!

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                                    #18
                                    I saw it Cees - thanks for mentioning it

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                                      #19
                                      ok, visited the tangmere museum today and there was a very nice spitfire fuselage reconstruction on show.
                                      cees

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