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  • AndyY
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    Lancaster Autopilot

    Can anybody point me in the direction of any information at all on the Autopilot system fitted to the Lancaster, please?
    I have seen reference to MkIV and MkVIII, but have no info. Were other Marks fitted? Is there a guide anywhere to different Marks of WW2 autopilots?
    Bits turn up claiming to be 'Lancaster Autopilot' and I want to understand what they are and where were they fitted.
    Many thanks,
    Andy
  • jamesinnewcastl
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    #2
    Hi Andy

    Do you mean info on the autopilot system itself or info as to which autopilot onto which Lancaster?

    I have copies of AIR 10 2026 1930 and a later copy which details a later system.


    Cheers
    James
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    • AndyY
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      #3
      James,
      I'm looking for details of any autopilot systems which were fitted to the Lancaster. (British, not Canadian, if different).
      I imagine the AP you illustrate might be a bit early, dated 1933?
      Was there more than one standard of autopilot fitted, I don't know. What units did it consist of? Who made it, or did Avro build their own (this seems unlikely)?
      Andy

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      • jamesinnewcastl
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        #4
        Hi Andy

        Home now! I have AP1469A - Aeroplane Automatic Controls MK IV, you are welcome to a copy of course.

        This one was fitted to Stirlings, some images follow.
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        • TerryP
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          #5
          Here is a schematic of the Mk IV
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          • TerryP
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            #6
            And from the Lancaster Mk I aircraft AP:
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            • jamesinnewcastl
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              #7
              Fitted to the Halifax
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              • jamesinnewcastl
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                #8
                Pics of parts, all the usual AP stuff.
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                • jamesinnewcastl
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                  #9
                  Aileron Servo
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                  • AndyY
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                    #10
                    James, Terry, very many thanks! Very helpful indeed. James, I would appreciate a copy of that AP if you have it electronically. Probably too big to email, if you could put it in Dropbox it would be great.
                    Thanks again!
                    Andy

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                    • 12jaguar
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                      #11
                      Hi James

                      Any chance of a copy for the Project as well

                      cheers

                      John
                      http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                      • jamesinnewcastl
                        Rank 5 Registered User

                        #12
                        Hi John

                        I'm pretty certain that I sent it to you some while ago following posts in your Stirling thread but I'll resend it, let me know if you don't get anything through.

                        Andy there is a pic of the MkVIII system here:

                        https://forum.keypublishing.com/show...light=stirling

                        Apparently I posted it.



                        Cheers
                        James
                        Last edited by jamesinnewcastl; 7th February 2018, 20:57.

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                        • AndyY
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                          #13
                          James, thanks, I must have looked at the Mk.VIII poster at the time and completely forgotten about it! I've now saved it for future reference.
                          Andy

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                          • 12jaguar
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                            #14
                            Got it James, many thanks

                            John
                            http://www.stirlingproject.co.uk

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                            • OneEighthBit
                              With wings alone

                              #15
                              If it's of any additional use, the George Newnes Limited book "Instruments (Part 2)" printed between 1940-1942 has a whole section dedicated what I *think* is the Mk.III autopilot. Looking at the AP extracts above I think theres a commonality of parts and you might glean some extra info from it. They're usually on flea-bay for a few quid.
                              "The best way to stop a crack in the fuselage spreading is to drill each end with a one eighth bit."
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                              • ~Alan~
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                                #16
                                Interesting thread. Out of interest, what controls did the auto pilots operate ?
                                Although i expect that changed according to the Mk. ?
                                Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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                                • AndyY
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                                  #17
                                  The schematic at post #5 shows that the MkIV operated elevators, rudder and ailerons.

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                                  • ~Alan~
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                                    #18
                                    Thanks, my eyesight isn't that good
                                    Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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