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  • TonyT
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Oct 2006
    • 9042

    Appears Rolls Royce is going to turn the MK14 G-ALGT into a wingless simulator

    When they move into the new hangar they are having built at EGNX.... If so, what a waste.
  • TonyT
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Oct 2006
    • 9042

    #2
    Been up since Feb but I couldn't see the point of posting them until it got closer to the date, sad I know but I read all the planning permissions for the village.

    https://plans.nwleics.gov.uk/public-...=OKCE95LR09O00

    this shows it as a Simulator..

    https://plans.nwleics.gov.uk/public-...ANS-435436.pdf

    It seems that the Caf that is going to have to be relocated might struggle as they are rumoured to be getting wacked with large bills through no fault of their own...
    Last edited by TonyT; 16th January 2018, 06:57.

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    • L4x2
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Jun 2011
      • 472

      #3
      For those who don't know the British register by heart G-ALGT is a Spitfire F Mk. XIVc, crashed in 1992 under rebuild since. AKA RM 689
      Last edited by L4x2; 16th January 2018, 08:59.

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      • David Burke
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2000
        • 10031

        #4
        Its been stored for a long time . Some work has been done on it. It would be a waste if it were an intact Spitfire -however the crash sequence ensured that its very much not.

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        • HP111
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • May 2012
          • 663

          #5
          Quite so - the fuselage in question is a new-build one. The reconstruction was well advanced before it was shelved. The simulator project seems like a sensible application for it.
          Last edited by HP111; 16th January 2018, 11:21. Reason: edited for clarity

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          • TonyT
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Oct 2006
            • 9042

            #6
            Its a bit more than that David, this was it arriving

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            Last edited by TonyT; 16th January 2018, 10:26.

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            • trumper
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Aug 2003
              • 6741

              #7
              Found this old thread ,the airframe may resurface but the pilot should,nt be forgotten. https://forum.keypublishing.com/show...Spitfire-Pilot

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              • ThreeM
                Rank 4 Registered User
                • Aug 2017
                • 69

                #8
                Pictured at Prestwick in 1967.
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                • Sabrejet
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 1763

                  #9
                  Quite so - the fuselage in question is a new-build one.
                  So much the same as most other Spitfires: in fact more of the original left than most, so in my humble opinion more deserving of a return to flight.

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                  • HP111
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • May 2012
                    • 663

                    #10
                    Which of the two RR aircraft is the trio of pictures of and when? (Choice of XIV and XIX)
                    Last edited by HP111; 16th January 2018, 11:26.

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                    • TonyT
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 9042

                      #11
                      That is the MK 14 when it was moved from Filton to East Mids for storage. About 1012 to 2012 time.
                      Last edited by TonyT; 16th January 2018, 11:47.

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                      • Bruce
                        Independent analyst
                        • Jan 2000
                        • 10226

                        #12
                        Bizarre if true - whilst it was clearly hugely reconstructed, it had been done with the intention of flight in due course, and at not inconsiderable cost. Its value as it stands is not insignificant - they would be better off trading it out for a purpose built simulator.

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                        • David Burke
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Jan 2000
                          • 10031

                          #13
                          Tony - I saw it with a rebuilder in Norfolk in the early 2000s - the nature of the crash at Woodford put paid to an awful lot of it.

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                          • TonyT
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 9042

                            #14
                            I saw it here David when they recovered it back after the crash. Agreed there was not a lot left, but as with most spit rebuilds they tend to end up as a new aircraft with a few old bits tacked onto it.

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                            • Arm Waver
                              Certified...
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 3074

                              #15
                              If you look at the plans there appears to be a "flyable" one and the simulator.
                              It is only kinky the first time...

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                              • TonyT
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 9042

                                #16
                                Flyable...ish is the MK19...

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                                • Moggy C
                                  Moderator
                                  • Jan 2000
                                  • 20534

                                  #17
                                  Part of me would find it pretty gruesome sitting in Dave Moore's seat.

                                  But looking at what would appear above to be a completely new-build fuselage, it isn't really.

                                  And thank you Trumper for remembering the important stuff.

                                  Moggy
                                  "What you must remember" Flip said "is that nine-tenths of Cattermole's charm lies beneath the surface." Many agreed.

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                                  • stirlingeffort
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Jan 2014
                                    • 51

                                    #18
                                    For those who have forgotten what it looked like, here is a picture of RM689 taken at Duxford in 1990

                                    Graham

                                    Rolls Royce Spitfire RM689

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                                    • stuart gowans
                                      Not a real Spitfire
                                      • Dec 2005
                                      • 2005

                                      #19
                                      I have the tailwheel tyre from this A/C (removed before the crash I hastened to add) perhaps they are worried about a legal challenge over the identity?
                                      Why be your own worse critic, that's what the forum is for.

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                                      • andrewclark
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Oct 2013
                                        • 195

                                        #20
                                        From what little I know of Mike Evans, his retirement from RR was a great loss. Not just to RR but to anyone with an interest in the aviation history of this country. A great guy, I believe.

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