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  • Wellington285
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    • Apr 2008
    • 418

    Talking to one of the guys working at the museum prior to going to Duxford on the Friday said that the Battle of Britain Hall is going to be turned into an information centre and kiddies play area and went on to say that the stripping the aircraft for conservation is a con. He also suggested to complain to the management as he said have no interest or knowledge of aircraft and history. When talking to me he seemed pretty emotional about the new way of thinking to what's going on. Suppose time will tell what's really going to happen.
    Ian

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    • danjama
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      • Nov 2010
      • 432

      I visited the BoB Museum at Hawkinge on Sunday for the first time, and have to say I loved it. Although I was irked about the ban on photography and even phones, I love the quaintness of the place, and it's historic authenticity is not to be ignored. Plus of course the thousands of exhibits with excellent background info. Walking around the place is as much about reading as it is about looking. The icing on the cake for me was the fine art collection in the ops room and the dozens of battle damaged engines dotted around the place. As a pistonhead, these were a real treat.

      What does this have to do with the RAF Museum I hear you say.

      Well, I will be recommending it to anybody with an interest in the Battle of Britain, along with a recommendation to avoid the RAFM.
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      • Pen Pusher
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Mar 2005
        • 2657

        http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/centenar...-new-dawn.aspx

        https://www.facebook.com/rafmuseum

        Brian
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        • svas_volunteer
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Feb 2005
          • 143

          Interesting link Brian I'm all up for them using the other buildings and trying to get more of the general public to look around, not so sure of spreading some of the airframes around the country but I concede it gives a better chance for people who wouldn't travel to London to see them. Which bf109 is moving as in the article they talk about bf109e 'black 6'?
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          • Jur
            Jur
            40+ years in ATC
            • Aug 2003
            • 407

            This one .....

            Black6-02 by Jur van der Wees, on Flickr

            Black6 by Jur van der Wees, on Flickr
            Last edited by Jur; 22nd October 2016, 07:55.
            Jur

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            • ~Alan~
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Mar 2010
              • 5018

              Reading what Maggie Appleton has to say about the future of Hendon, it doesn't seem to be all doom and gloom.
              I look forward to visiting again, once everything has been set up for the 100 anniversary. Very often change turns
              out to be for the better. As with the AAM at Duxford for instance.
              Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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              • aeronut 2008
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2008
                • 1565

                Reading that article makes me wonder what space there is at Cosford and just which aircraft previously on display there will end up out of sight in one of the blister hangars.

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                • Jur
                  Jur
                  40+ years in ATC
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 407

                  I've found some more pictures from my visit to Hendon in 1980. A few examples....







                  Some present an interesting comparison to pictures I took in 2009











                  Jur

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                  • hawker1966
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 698

                    Originally posted by danjama View Post
                    I visited the BoB Museum at Hawkinge on Sunday for the first time, and have to say I loved it. Although I was irked about the ban on photography and even phones, I love the quaintness of the place, and it's historic authenticity is not to be ignored. Plus of course the thousands of exhibits with excellent background info. Walking around the place is as much about reading as it is about looking. The icing on the cake for me was the fine art collection in the ops room and the dozens of battle damaged engines dotted around the place. As a pistonhead, these were a real treat.

                    What does this have to do with the RAF Museum I hear you say.

                    Well, I will be recommending it to anybody with an interest in the Battle of Britain, along with a recommendation to avoid the RAFM.
                    Seconded:
                    I totally agree with you danjama the Kent Battle of Britain Museum is an absolute Gem, i guess with what is currently happening to the Battle of Britain hall at Hendon, we must be even more grateful that we have such a dedicated Museum to the memory of the Few and keeping the Battle of Britain story alive alive.

                    I visited the Hawkinge Museum on Sunday and it is remarkable what they are achieving there displays are changing every year and the facilities and volunteers are very public friendly, when you think of the size in comparison of the 2 Museums the Kent Version for me certainly puts the London version to shame.

                    I visit Hendon in the region of some 7/8 times a year but once the Battle of Britain hall is no more then i know where i will be spend more of my Saturdays.

                    The word disrespectful comes to me in summing up Hendon ref the Battle of Britain Hall

                    (Thats my own personal opinion)

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                    • TonyT
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                      • Oct 2006
                      • 9021

                      http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/centenar...-new-dawn.aspx

                      Interesting view, and strangely it shows how it might be going, Multi media area, plastic spit outside ( I hope) and squat real aviation wise shown inside, its appears to of had the heart of the museum ripped out of it, and that is the main reason it is there, to show the relics of the RAF, to the public. The BOB was the worlds first aerial battle and was the pivotal moment in the UK's history, to remove and disperse this collection is both stupid and a great disrespect to those that fought to save the Country.. People the world over travel to Hendon to view this collection, to disperse it is crass.

                      Sadly it is what you get when you take on a new CEO who has not served nor understands the RAF.


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                      Last edited by TonyT; 4th August 2016, 10:08.

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                      • TonyT
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 9021

                        the Museum will be interpreting the Battle of Britain story within the wider context of the Second World War across both London and Cosford which currently does not reference this important chapter in the RAFs history.
                        Err so I never saw a Dornier, Spitfire MK1 or Hurricane at Cosford? my, how my eyes are failing me...

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                        • Planemike
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1807

                          Originally posted by hawker1966 View Post
                          I visited the Hawkinge Museum on Sunday and it is remarkable what they are achieving there displays are changing every year and the facilities and volunteers are very public friendly, when you think of the size in comparison of the 2 Museums the Kent Version for me certainly puts the London version to shame.
                          Just don't try to take a photograph there.....!!! You can at Hendon !!!!

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                          • TonyT
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 9021

                            So very true, but the point being Hendon is rapidly become as interesting to photograph as




                            https://www.flickr.com/photos/dmleigh/5896843258

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                            • Trolly Aux
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                              • May 2006
                              • 3799

                              And what will happen to Maffets Hurricane?
                              SMOKE SMOKE GO!
                              TA out

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                              • Pen Pusher
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 2657

                                Enjoy

                                http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/gallerie...enaryNews-6Aug

                                http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/gallerie...enaryNews-6Aug

                                http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/gallerie...enaryNews-6Aug

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                                • jeepman
                                  infrequent poster now
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 1982

                                  Well at least they managed to tick all the PC boxes in those presentations. I wonder if future generations will thank us for this current revamp. The people who established the RAFM must be spinning in their graves.
                                  JM

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                                  • Jur
                                    Jur
                                    40+ years in ATC
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 407

                                    It seems to be turned into just another amusement/theme park, which you'll visit only once (if at all). Very sad for the real aviation enthousiasts.
                                    Jur

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                                    • Wings43
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Jan 2015
                                      • 575

                                      Originally posted by Jur View Post
                                      It seems to be turned into just another amusement/theme park, which you'll visit only once (if at all). Very sad for the real aviation enthousiasts.
                                      Good job the museum is not for aviation enthusiasts then. They serve a tiny proportion of the museums remit.

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                                      • Rocketeer
                                        trying harder
                                        • Jan 2005
                                        • 5243

                                        words fail me.....very depressing. The kids who come to our museum love looking around cockpits and sitting them, not sure they'd like the new RAFM. They say the display in the ex BoB Hall was permanent....that's what they said about the BoB Hall museum!
                                        Tony Dyer
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                                        • aeronut 2008
                                          Rank 5 Registered User
                                          • Jan 2008
                                          • 1565

                                          What they appear to want to put in the BoB hangar could easilly fit in the side galleries of the main building. These galleries and the Dermot Boyle Wing (Do they ever use that?) should be put to use before the floor space that can take aircraft. They are reducing the number of airframes at Hendon, there is precious little space left at Cosford and I doubt Stafford will take any more. In addition the RAFM airframes at MOSI look like they may have to move (where to?). Just where are all these airframes going to go? and I suppose they'll have to stop collecting any more or start selling those they alrfeady have.

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