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  • markstringer
    Mr T wannabe

    Chariots of Fire FW190 landing incident

    http://i.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-exp...maka-aerodrome

    Damn Shame but glad there were no injuries.


    They don't have a fantastic record with these aircraft...

    Hopefully back in the air before too long, but certainly going to cost a few quid.
    I PITY THE FOOL
  • Propstrike
    Rank 5 Registered User

    #2
    Oh dear, another one broken.

    They really have the worst luck, but at least it is only bent metal, so a good outcome really.

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    • DazDaMan
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      #3
      Damn shame. Forgot the prop was wooden, though!
      Daren Cogdon

      Spitfire fanatic

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      • Propstrike
        Rank 5 Registered User

        #4
        Wooden props are less damaging to the engine, according to received wisdom.

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        • Mike J
          Senior Member

          #5
          From the link above:
          "Focke Wulfs have a tail dragger instead of a wheel at the back of the plane which made it difficult to control in strong winds"

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          • trumper
            Rank 5 Registered User

            #6
            So was it brake failure or the strange wind conditions where one windsock was pointing one way and another the other way that caused it?.I hope it is soon up and flying again .

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            • Trolly Aux
              Rank 5 Registered User

              #7
              I take it a 'ground loop' due to one brake on and one off, the port leg has come through the front of the wing so at some point it must of gone backwards?

              The pilot safe which is fantastic and the metal can be put back together.
              SMOKE SMOKE GO!
              TA out

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              • DaveM2
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                #8
                Starboard brake failure

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                • Trolly Aux
                  Rank 5 Registered User

                  #9
                  Thanks for the update Dave, I guess the trouble is you have no idea of the fail until you apply brake on the landing roll.
                  SMOKE SMOKE GO!
                  TA out

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                  • QldSpitty
                    Rank 5 Registered User

                    #10
                    B()gger
                    "If the C.O. ask's you to be Tail End Charlie...just shoot him!!!....A Piece of Cake.
                    http://spitfirea58-27.blogspot.com.au/

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                    • ErrolC
                      Rank 5 Registered User

                      #11
                      One prop blade flew virtually straight up, it was odd watching it stop, then fall.
                      Here it is just minutes earlier
                      https://flic.kr/p/qYEWVG

                      At least the owner's Spitfire ZK-XIV had its return to flight yesterday, and made it to the show at dusk!

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                      • Bob
                        Bob
                        Aerophile

                        #12
                        Ouch...
                        Under my gruff exterior lies an even gruffer interior...

                        行雲流水

                        Warbirdskies Blog

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                        • Stepwilk
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                          #13
                          Let's be clear, by the way, that this is not a "Focke-Wulf FW-190" but a replica. I'm sorry he hurt his airplane, but I'm sorrier that the line between real and imaginary is increasingly being blurred in this age of data-plate specials, homebuilt replicas and other make-believe wannabes. There are Ferraris and ferraris, and there are Focke-Wulfs and focke-wulfs.

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                          • snibble
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Stepwilk View Post
                            Let's be clear, by the way, that this is not a "Focke-Wulf FW-190" but a replica. I'm sorry he hurt his airplane, but I'm sorrier that the line between real and imaginary is increasingly being blurred in this age of data-plate specials, homebuilt replicas and other make-believe wannabes. There are Ferraris and ferraris, and there are Focke-Wulfs and focke-wulfs.
                            Without losing sight of the fact that a lovely aeroplane got bent, I have to agree with this quote. I got ripped to shreds once for voicing the opinion that the new build Me 262s aren't "real" Me 262s. A good example is the Fairey Flycatcher in the FAA museum, built to original blueprints using a number of original parts, crucially, the correct engine and actually built for John Fairey. No one claims this to be anything other than a replica.
                            For me its about the raison d'etre for the machine. An Fw 190 was a fighter built to defend the Nazi reich, build one as a rich man's toy and airshow performer and you have not built a fighter.
                            This doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see it, but I would be fully aware that it's just a big model.

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                            • DaveM2
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                              #15
                              I would call it a 'complex replica' and the closest you are going to get outside Paul Allen's example. As long as people are not trying to claim other wise (I know a few have tried) it is all good and sparks an interest in the younger generations to delve a bit deeper.

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                              • David Burke
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                                #16
                                Snibble -The Flycatcher is a fine replica -however it always relied on a P&W R-985 engine for motive power ! Nowhere near as nice as an Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar in terms of originality !

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                                • snibble
                                  Rank 5 Registered User

                                  #17
                                  Unfortunately people do, lots of them. Not the owners or builder but enthusiasts. "That is a Fw 190, you are a pedant and spoiler for denying it" sort of thing. The folk who say it's genuine, there has just been a break in production.

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                                  • DCK
                                    DCK
                                    Rank 5 Registered User

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DaveM2 View Post
                                    I would call it a 'complex replica' and the closest you are going to get outside Paul Allen's example. As long as people are not trying to claim other wise (I know a few have tried) it is all good and sparks an interest in the younger generations to delve a bit deeper.
                                    Thank you!
                                    Norwegian Spitfire Foundation

                                    http://www.norwegianspitfire.no/
                                    https://www.facebook.com/NorwegianSpitfireFoundation

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                                    • snibble
                                      Rank 5 Registered User

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by David Burke View Post
                                      Snibble -The Flycatcher is a fine replica -however it always relied on a P&W R-985 engine for motive power ! Nowhere near as nice as an Armstrong Siddeley Jaguar in terms of originality !
                                      Happy to be corrected on that, I was under the impression it was fitted with a correct Bristol Jupiter. The example still holds good in that John Fairey's name alone makes it more authentic than any of the reborn Luftwaffe.

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                                      • Keefy041
                                        Rank 5 Registered User

                                        #20
                                        The Flug-Werk 190's aren't real , you're right.
                                        But the example that came to Flying legends a few years back was very impressive , especially as for years we happily put up with Pilatus P2's and Nord 1002's pretending to be me-109's.

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