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By: 15th March 2015 at 16:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-You need some MEK
By: 15th March 2015 at 16:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I would try Isopropyl Alcohol or one of the aerosol label removers.
By: 15th March 2015 at 21:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Acetone should work well for this
By: 15th March 2015 at 21:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Brake cleaner
By: 15th March 2015 at 21:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Or Car Paint thinners, I doubt IPA will touch it given failure with meths.
By: 15th March 2015 at 21:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I second the acetone
By: 15th March 2015 at 23:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-ACF50 is amazing stuff!
Andy
By: 15th March 2015 at 23:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-As said MEK, but we used to clean permanent marker off charts with cheap aftershave, so as 'enry used to say, splash it all over....
By: 16th March 2015 at 05:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thirded: MEK is the only thing you need. Clears the sinuses too.
By: 16th March 2015 at 09:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Gentlemen,
I would like to thank everybody who has made some very good suggestions, will be trying out the more easier (and cheaper :highly_amused:) available items first, so will let you know if there is any progress.
Again thanks
Jason
By: 16th March 2015 at 11:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I saw an interesting discussion online once whereby somebody had studied autographs under a microscope. Those signed with a permanent marker were actually scratched into the finish to some degree. Apparently the nibs are abrasive.
I've heard of people using another non-permanent marker to scribble over the original marks, which serves to move the ink about and make it easier to remove with another substance, be it acetone or whatever.
Hats off to whoever scrawled on the panel to begin with. :stupid:
By: 17th March 2015 at 14:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Lighter fuel. I've just done it on a piece of aluminium. I walked out to the car park with you and commented on your acquisition.
John
By: 17th March 2015 at 16:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-To remove permanent marker from white boards you scribble over it with the correct non-permanent marker and then wipe off quickly before it dries. Works on white boards but I'd try it on a scrap bit of ally before your skins.
By: 17th March 2015 at 19:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-chaps can I suggest some science..
Like dissolves like - water does not dissolve oil as they are at opposite ends of the polarity spectrum.
Lighter fuel is an alkane - it will dissolve only non polar materials.
MEk is methyl ethyl ketone - it is a relatively polar molecule - it will dissolve polar compounds.
Acetone is also a ketone - but more readily available from the chemists as nail varnish remover.
The difference between acetone and MEK is CH2 - i.e. not very much in a chemical perspective.
Cellulose paint thinners is a mix of aromatic compounds and ethanol. - low to mid polarity.
Meths is is methylated alcohol - mid polarity.
If you sniff a marker pen and it smells of pear drops - it uses amyl acetate - an ester as solvent - moderately polar.
From a science experiment - working form polar to nonpolar would give you the best chance of dissolving the marker before the paint.
As meths and white spirit do not work - I would also try nail varnish remover - acetone as my next step.
If these do not work - the pen used may not have used the ester solvent system.
By: 24th March 2015 at 16:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hello,
Well finally finished the tail plane skin and very happy with how its turned out :D. I tried using the dry wipe marker method which sadly did not work, nor did using a new permanent marker which also made matters worse :mad:
Using the nail varnish remover first which took the majority off, I then used the surgical spirit to take the final traces of the marker finishing off with a complete wipe down of white spirit.
Now all I have to do is paint it with clear satin varnish.
To everybody who took the time and trouble to advise me...a big thank you gentlemen :eagerness::very_drunk:
Jason
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By: 24th March 2015 at 17:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I Wouldn't varnish it. Varnish can turn yellow and peel off. You'll risk damaging the artifact.
By: 25th March 2015 at 15:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Fouga23,
I have a big feeling your right, so will not varnish however someone did suggest cleaning with white spirit, leaving to dry thoroughly followed by putting a very thin coat of beeswax polish on top.
Jason
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By: oldgit158 - 15th March 2015 at 15:41 - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 11:40
Hello All,
I purchased this original spitfire tailplane skin last week at the Newark aerojumble and as you can see from the photographs there are still remains of the original
paintwork and stencils, sadly someone has writtain in permanent marker and its with this I need your assistance with.
I have tried white spirit, methelated spirits and even rubbing it with a black dry marker but to no avail, so hoping that someone on here will be able to offer with some proven suggestions to remove the marker writing.
My intentions is to clean it up whilst preserving the remaining original CBAF stencils under a thin coat of matt varnish.
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Many thanks in anticipation
Jason