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By: - 7th November 2013 at 10:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I find it worrying to think a new build already had " shabby and faulty riveting on the wings" .Nice to see it back safely in the air.
By: - 7th November 2013 at 10:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Good photos, plane looks great. Thanks for the link redvanner.
By: - 7th November 2013 at 10:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The polished engine cowling and prop spinner looks Fab. The polished rudder though seems to show up the imperfections. Is its engine a Jumo 222d ? Overall I think I prefer the original Camouflage Livery. Seems to give the aircraft that more fierce look. Great to see its flying, well done to all involved.
By: - 7th November 2013 at 10:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The polished engine cowling and prop spinner looks Fab. The polished rudder though seems to show up the imperfections. Is its engine a Jumo 222d ? Overall I think I prefer the original Camouflage Livery. Seems to give the aircraft that more fierce look. Great to see its flying, well done to all involved.
No, engine is an ASh 82T, in fact the Chinese licence production of it, used in many Russian and Chinese planes, like the Ilyushin Il 14 and several other transport and passenger planes.
Michael
By: - 7th November 2013 at 12:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not too sure about the "salute" in the third picture down. Fine job though.
By: - 7th November 2013 at 15:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not too sure about the "salute" in the third picture down. Fine job though.
If it were, what you might suspect, it would be totally wrong. Left arm instead of right, so not to be misunderstood. I take it as a friendly wave to the onlookers, nothing else to be seen there IMHO.
Michael
By: - 7th November 2013 at 16:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Great to see this aircraft back in the air again. Although a standard Luftwaffe scheme would look good, the silver look is pretty stunning and reminiscent of some works prototype finishes.
Have to say though that I had to double take the last photo...I thought he had bellied in during the landing!!
Regards;
Steve
By: - 7th November 2013 at 19:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It looks like a straightforward wave to me and I think any suggestion otherwise is distasteful.
A nice looking machine, well done to all!
By: - 7th November 2013 at 20:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
What a wonderful looking aircraft.
On another note I spent 19 years in Germany, and remarks like the one a few posts above, make me ashamed to be a "Brit", this forum is about enjoying aircraft, keep the political remarks out.
By: - 7th November 2013 at 21:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So the FW190 was designed as a tool of the Nazi regime and undoubtedly used slave labour in the construction of the genuine article .Therefore we should celebrate the warplane and condemn anyone who mistakes an arm wave as a salute ! What a strange world we live in!
By: - 8th November 2013 at 08:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So the FW190 was designed as a tool of the Nazi regime and undoubtedly used slave labour in the construction of the genuine article .Therefore we should celebrate the warplane and condemn anyone who mistakes an arm wave as a salute ! What a strange world we live in!
OMG David Burke.............you need to get out more.............an aeroplane is an aeroplane, good or bad, lovely or ugly, iconic or 'just another one. Kurt Tank could have come from any country. It happened to be Germany and...yes we know all the bad things etc..etc. But D-FWMV is a fantastic aeroplane in its own right... wave, salute or whatever...get over it !!!!
By: - 8th November 2013 at 10:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
What a wonderful looking aircraft.
On another note I spent 19 years in Germany, and remarks like the one a few posts above, make me ashamed to be a "Brit", this forum is about enjoying aircraft, keep the political remarks out.
Couldn't agree more. Its all about the engineering aspect, but as with some threads, politics seem to creep in and spoil it. Would we have progressed this far technically had it not been for the War machine? I suppose we may have done by now. What do you think?
By: - 8th November 2013 at 10:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Confused - where's the Lang Nasen? Were there short nosed Doras?
[Edit] Ah oops - the D is part of the registration?
By: - 8th November 2013 at 11:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Xtangomike -I couldn't care less if the pilot did any kind of salute ! I think the reality is that we glorify some parts of the Nazi regime and find other parts distasteful . The aircraft (FW-190) was a part of that regime -it wasn't designed by Kurt Tank for air displays -so whether you feel it's completely separate or not -it isn't !
By: - 8th November 2013 at 11:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not too sure about the "salute" in the third picture down. Fine job though.
I think you put too much milk on your breakfast cereal young man. Go and stand in the corner.
By: - 8th November 2013 at 11:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So the FW190 was designed as a tool of the Nazi regime and undoubtedly used slave labour in the construction of the genuine article .Therefore we should celebrate the warplane and condemn anyone who mistakes an arm wave as a salute ! What a strange world we live in!
Give us a break FFS.
By: - 8th November 2013 at 11:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As We Were Saying....
AAaaaaanyway;- Great photos and great to see such a mammoth project back in the air where it belongs. :)
By: - 8th November 2013 at 11:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Glad you think I'm a young man Snoopy. I bet I've got a few more grey hairs than you. You will note that I didn't make any comment about the salute/wave and I'm sure it was the latter. However, having worked in Germany, I am aware of how sensitive the Germans are about anything that even vaguely reminds them of the Nazi regime and who can blame them. That is why I was surprised to see this photograph published and that is all! I do remember going to an airshow in Bavaria when a Ju 52 arrived from the UK with a swastika on the tail and the comments in the crowd which amounted to "das is verboten in Deutschland".
By: - 8th November 2013 at 12:06 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Having worked in Gemany as well - its a strange paradox that the swastika is banned yet at places like Sinsheim you can see an aircraft painted in Luftwaffe wartime markings that has no connnection with Germany at all!
By: - 8th November 2013 at 12:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Amongst mature, intelligent adults, none of these thing should require comment frankly. It's 2013. Anyone left alive now is going to have been too young to have been a serious player and they'll all be dead soon too. The younger Germans do not deserve to have these things brought-up childishly and frivolously. It's insulting. Aren't Germans allowed to raise their arms above their waste before some daft twerp makes a comment?????
As for the Swastika on a/c - my personal view is that outside Germany, it's offensive not to include them, as it panders to the PC brigade and is tampering with history. History isn't a pick & mix counter. As for what happens within Germany - that's their bag alone.
Do we raise our hands in horror when a bunch of 're-enactors' dress-up as Romans and wave an Imperial Standard around...? No, it's old news, and frankly, as the last survivors die off, so is he Second World War. Time everyone moved-on and grew-up. Why am I even having to say this in 2013....... :sleeping:
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By: redvanner - 7th November 2013 at 09:01
Flugwerk FW 190 D-FWMV (formerly with Tom Blair at Duxford) took to the skies again at Braunschweig Airport on Tuesday, 05.11.2013. After a rebuilt and new silver paintwork at MeierMotors there was an issue with very shabby and faulty riveting on the wings. After only few flights the aircraft was grounded by the LBA. Now the FW 190 is airworthy again, hope to see her regularly in future. Below is the link to pics taken before, during and after the first flight in Braunschweig on 05.11.2013.
http://forum.luftfahrtclubbraunschweig.de/05-11-2013-flug-werk-fw-190-d-fwmv-1-take-off-bwe-t3458.html
Enjoy,
Michael