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    Looks like it could be early Hurricane grip, it seems to have had the cable guide at some point but has been ground off, so started life as Hurricane I think. if this is the early Non cast type it would be very sought after, shame about the damage but someone who is very good at fabrication and welding could re-make the cable guide. Find some pipes and there you go 1000 +

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      Thanks Hawker1966, I thought (could be wrong) that this was a Dunlop grip? so perhaps Harvard??
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        You may of came to the conclusion} as Worcs aviation has stated certainly been ground down so going by the previous link
        It may of started its life as a Hurricane then used on Harvard.. certainly a nice grip and firing button..
        Last edited by hawker1966; 3rd August 2016, 18:47.

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          Hi Worcs that's very interesting thank you, it cost 250 so not a bad price I think, it will be going in the collection but nice to get something for a good price on ebay for a change. Does anyone have a brake lever by any chance? Would be nice to bring it back up to tip top condition. Also would you have any detailed reference pics please showing what has been ground off exactly so I can get to grips with what needs doing.
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            Thanks Hawker, I plan to leave it slightly grubby I think, you're right the firing button feels nice better than the later rocker style button.
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              Hi Dan,

              It may be prudent for you to invest in a copy of 'An illustrated guide to British Aircraft Equipment 1939 - 1945, Volume 4, Dunlop Spade Grips and Gun Firing Gear' by our very own 'AirMinistry', fountain of knowledge pertaining to this sort of thing!

              It is a fantastic source of information regarding all of the 'Wartime' Dunlop spade grips and the pneumatic/electric firing mechanisms used on them, with very a useful vocabulary of spares for all the grips and attachments too.

              His entry on page 34 indeed covers the use of the AH2040 destined for use on Canadian Hurricanes but, latterly diverted and subsequently, converted for use on the Harvard by the surgery evident on your grip. The 'official' Harvard grip being the AH2242.

              However, your earlier question regarding the number on the brass gun button you have, does not seem feature in the stores listing contained within the above mentioned tome. (unless I've not seen it for looking!)

              Martyn

              GYD

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                Originally posted by BasD View Post
                Hello All,

                I recently acquired this grip, supposed to be a SU-17 grip. However, looking at many pictures it looks like a SU-24 grip to me.
                Anyone in the Russian Dept who can identify this grip? Thank you so much!

                Best regards,

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                Bas,

                Certainly looks like the Su 24 grip I have! I believe it is the 1st pilot's grip, the 2nd pilot has less functional 'buttonry' and is about 2" shorter to clear the Nav screens.

                Martyn,

                GYD

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                  Dan
                  that is a lovely AH2040 you have there. As others have said, made by Dunlop, early grip. They were used on Swordfish too. I actually have not seen a proper early AH2040 modified in the way yours has been for fitment on Harvard. A real bargain and rarity...even in that condition/history you could at least quadruple your money - lucky I did not see it lol! The missing tubes may indicate that someone fitted it on some other aircraft time in the civilian market after its wartime Harvard service.

                  If ever I get around to it, I will covering the differences in Spade grips in a series on my youtube channel - though I doubt many would be that interested!
                  Tony Dyer
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                    Thanks Martyn and Tony, I wondered if the gun button number might provide a link to an aircraft type, but I think with it's modification it is most likely Harvard. So do I convert this back to an AH2040 "Hurricane" grip or leave as is? Would be nice if it was out of a Swordfish but rather unlikely.

                    Tony, I would be interested in your youtube post do you already have a channel? perhaps you can share the link if you do.

                    Martyn, you're right I should invest in vol 4, I will get one the next time I see one.

                    Always amazes me the level of knowledge on here which is why I like to post up any grips or yokes so that I can get a second opinion as I do not fully trust mine!!

                    Tony - I could feel you looking over my shoulder when I was clicking the buy it now button!!

                    Dan
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                      Martyn,

                      Thank you very much for your reply and much appreciated information! I had the same thought but it is good to have a backup on this.

                      Best regards,

                      Bas

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                        Hi, excellent thread, very informative.
                        Does anybody have an A-4C Skyhawk sticktop, that they could be persuaded to part with?

                        Cheers................Gabby

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                          Perhaps one to discuss and watch...

                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-RAF-Hurr...kAAOSwRoxXmi37

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                            Hello Gabby, i sent you a PM regarding the A-4 grip

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                              Hi, I can't often offer much information in this field so will instead add confusion. This is from a RAN Grumman S2 Tracker, it makes 3 different versions pictured just on this page alone.
                              Paul
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                                Thanks for chiming in Paul. It's always interesting to find out about design nuances

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                                  Originally posted by ian_ View Post
                                  This (half) Russian spade grip has me confused. There appears to be room for only one top button, so not Sturmovik. It looks similar to a LaGG-3 grip, but that doesn't have the extra steel (brake?) lever: http://www.airpages.ru/img/la3_5.jpghis
                                  There are also similarities to a Mig-3 grip: http://www.reaa.ru/yabbfiles/Attachm...bina_MiG-3.JPG
                                  as well as references to an early Il-2 spade grip with only one button at the top. It will soon be going in a Deox C bath prior to getting a 3D printed other half. With the sad demise of the Cardiff Ian Allan bookshop, my reference library has gone. Any ideas?
                                  This grip "remains" looks from Yak-1 or Yak1-B first series spade grip - latter models series of Yak1-B use a copy of German KG12/13-B grip.

                                  The lever is indeed the brake lever - WWII era Russian planes use pneumatic brakes similar to British system, operated by lever in control column and differential brakes through a valve connected in rudder pedal bar.

                                  http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5d0e62a0.jpg

                                  Variation of this spade grip in Yak-9 - the brake lever is peculiar.

                                  http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/550958112.jpg

                                  Difficult to find good pictures, but this spade are very well modeled in Yak-1 in PC Combat Flight Simulators IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad and War Thunder.
                                  Last edited by Sokol1; 28th August 2016, 02:36.

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                                    Thanks Sokol1, I think you have it with Yak-1. A little googling found this image of an aircraft recovered from a lake: https://www.flickr.com/photos/331041...7632026066770/

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                                      Gentlemen:

                                      I recently came across this control wheel cap on Ebay and was the high bidder. My guess is that it was originally fitted to either the 1950's vintage AJ-2 Savage or the late 1940's vintage B-45 Tornado. I don't know of any other post-war aircraft built by North American that used a control wheel (vs a stick). As a side note....I had never encountered this cap before about 4 months ago when another of these showed up on Ebay. Just wondering if anyone here on this forum can fill in any more blanks concerning this wheel cap.

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                                        Bought this primarily for use in a flightsim. A westland Whirlwind helicopter column. Sadly to be able to use it I have to cut its length and I cannot get myself to do that. So I am probably selling it. Tested all the buttons on it and they worked, witch is pretty cool

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                                          Would you need to cut it? see

                                          https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=he...DVEec07AGBb-9H

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