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  • Wyvernfan
    wyvernfan@gmail.com
    • Oct 2007
    • 5903

    Westland Wyvern Project Thread.

    Having consulted Bruce i thought it would be a good idea to start a dedicated thread for my two projects. Progress on both of these two rare types is always going to be slow, but please keep an eye on here for any new progress. Both projects are based more on collecting, conserving and displaying original material, rather than re-creating a replica / reproduction section.

    Always fascinated by 'the beast', the project on the Wyvern was started by me over twenty years ago. But with the introduction of the internet which has made it easier to find like minded enthusiasts, some very nice parts & photos etc have been found and acquired since that time - and are still turning up to this day. It has also allowed me i'm pleased to say to make contact with ex Wyvern personnel, whether they are pilots, groundcrew or have had some other involvement with the type. That experience has left me feeling quite humble at times.
    To start with i am part way through making up a control column of sorts (not a replica i might add) to allow me to mount either stick top, and to give the cockpit rig a new dimension. It also helps give a better idea of the layout and position of the cockpit equipment together with the aid of the pilots notes. Again the rig is not intended to be a replica of any kind. Its just a way of attaching parts to, to give a representation of the size and the equipment used.
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  • Wyvernfan
    wyvernfan@gmail.com
    • Oct 2007
    • 5903

    #2
    Sturgeon project

    Another relatively forgotten type is the Short Sturgeon. This is a much more recent project for me and has only been going for twelve months or so.

    Similar to the Wyvern in its goal of collecting, conserving and displaying as much original material as possible, it has already started to surprise me just what there is still about. And thats even more surprising when you consider that only twenty eight complete Sturgeons were ever built. A very small number for any production type.

    First up are my most recent two finds, these genuine Sturgeon propeller blades. They are both Rotol RA10274RT - Sturgeon - front airscrew, and were found in Malta in the early 1970's by Ken T who at the time was a serving RAF technician. Having taken a liking to them he had them flown home by "Vulcan Air" (as in Avro ). He then spent the next twenty to thirty years researching the Sturgeon, having become quite fond of the type. With the blades was a large file of documents, letters and photos.. and this was also acquired by me.

    Rob
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    • No.2 A.A.C.U.
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Aug 2007
      • 275

      #3
      Hello Rob,

      Two very worth while projects and I will look on with great interest as both develop.

      Best of luck on the parts....

      Regards,

      Tim

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      • Wyvernfan
        wyvernfan@gmail.com
        • Oct 2007
        • 5903

        #4
        Cheers Tim, for the kind comments


        Rob
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        • Jasonp51d
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Jun 2003
          • 257

          #5
          Rob,

          Good to see you giving them a good airing.

          I think its great to see these slightly less obvious machines being kept alive - a pleasant change to Spitfires.

          Look forward to more progress.

          Cheers

          Jason
          Jason Webb
          www.bottishamairfieldmuseum.org.uk
          www.361fg.com

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          • Firebex
            North Yorkshire
            • Jan 2010
            • 1600

            #6
            Well done Rob as you know we will give you any help we can,hope you like the odd bits we found (interesting door stop if nothing else.)

            Mike E

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            • Wyvernfan
              wyvernfan@gmail.com
              • Oct 2007
              • 5903

              #7
              Jason - Cheers mate. Now if only Bottisham had a Fleet Air Arm connection

              Mike E - Thanks once again for your considerable help and co-operation Mike. My back has nearly recovered now


              Rob
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              • DragonRapide
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jun 2007
                • 1007

                #8
                Keep up the good work!
                Listening out for something interesting approaching...

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                • trumper
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 6742

                  #9
                  Good luck Rob,now where did i put that airworthy Wyvern i buried a few years ago

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                  • Wyvernfan
                    wyvernfan@gmail.com
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 5903

                    #10
                    For the benefit of new members and those looking in from the outside so to speak, i'll re-list some pics of what has already been found.
                    Starting with this pair of Sturgeon main wheels and tyres. These came from a Kent museum last year after being offered for disposal on this forum over seven years ago and not finding a buyer then (just goes to show its sometimes worth going back and checking on old posts). They have now been cleaned up, and after spending many years outside are now kept dry indoors.

                    Rob
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                    • Wyvernfan
                      wyvernfan@gmail.com
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 5903

                      #11
                      DragonRapide - Many thanks, and yes i will. There's a long way to go still

                      Trumper - Let me know when you remember Gary, and i'll bring a shovel


                      Rob
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                      • sopwith.7f1
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1142

                        #12
                        Fantastic projects, hope you keep us all posted on any new finds etc.

                        Bob T.

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                        • Wyvernfan
                          wyvernfan@gmail.com
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 5903

                          #13
                          Cheers Bob. Likewise i look forward to updates on your superb Sopwith Snipe project. As has already been said its great to see the more obscure types are not being forgotten.


                          Rob
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                          • Wyvernfan
                            wyvernfan@gmail.com
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 5903

                            #14
                            Following an 800 mile round trip last year i returned home with this Sturgeon windscreen section. Firstly credit has to go to its former owner Wallace Shackleton for saving it from Forres scrapyard back in the mid 80's.
                            Research is still continuing to try and find out a bit more about it, but i'm slowly narrowing it down as to what the serial was of the aircraft it was cut from. What i do know is that it is from a TT.3, as confirmed by the single de-icing fluid jet located at the front just ahead of the centre screen (earlier TT.2's had two fluid jets, one either side). There is also what could be a date stamp of 22-10-57, which if correct could point to the time the airframe was converted from TT.2 to TT.3 spec. In that case then it almost certainly belongs to TS480, quite possibly the last of the type to be converted. But as i said, this is still pure guess work at the moment.

                            Rob
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                            • Tin Triangle
                              Bright Young Thing
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1218

                              #15
                              Super to see someone saving what parts remain of these obscure and unsung types. Great work, and keep it up!
                              Armchair enthusiast, but also a fan of sofas and recliners.

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                              • Wyvernfan
                                wyvernfan@gmail.com
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 5903

                                #16
                                Thank you Tin Triangle.


                                Rob
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                                • TempestV
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 1507

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Wyvernfan View Post
                                  Having consulted Bruce i thought it would be a good idea to start a dedicated thread for my two projects. Progress on both of these two rare types is always going to be slow, but please keep an eye on here for any new progress. Both projects are based more on collecting, conserving and displaying original material, rather than re-creating a replica / reproduction section.

                                  Always fascinated by 'the beast', the project on the Wyvern was started by me over twenty years ago. But with the introduction of the internet which has made it easier to find like minded enthusiasts, some very nice parts & photos etc have been found and acquired since that time - and are still turning up to this day. It has also allowed me i'm pleased to say to make contact with ex Wyvern personnel, whether they are pilots, groundcrew or have had some other involvement with the type. That experience has left me feeling quite humble at times.
                                  To start with i am part way through making up a control column of sorts (not a replica i might add) to allow me to mount either stick top, and to give the cockpit rig a new dimension. It also helps give a better idea of the layout and position of the cockpit equipment together with the aid of the pilots notes. Again the rig is not intended to be a replica of any kind. Its just a way of attaching parts to, to give a representation of the size and the equipment used.
                                  Hi Rob,

                                  I welcome your projects to the forum. Just remember, anyway I can help to further the recreation of these two rare types, you only have to ask.

                                  Now all we need is an East Anglian "Fleet Air Arm" themed museum, and we could display the Wyvern, Sturgeon, and Sea Hornet PR22 together.

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                                  • sopwith.7f1
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Jan 2011
                                    • 1142

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dcollins103 View Post
                                    Hi Rob,

                                    I welcome your projects to the forum. Just remember, anyway I can help to further the recreation of these two rare types, you only have to ask.

                                    Now all we need is an East Anglian "Fleet Air Arm" themed museum, and we could display the Wyvern, Sturgeon, and Sea Hornet PR22 together.
                                    If only the RNAS had used the Snipe as well .

                                    Bob T.

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                                    • TwinOtter23
                                      NAM volunteer-Plugmeister
                                      • Jan 2006
                                      • 7776

                                      #19
                                      Other than Yeovilton I’m trying to think of the location around these parts that has one of the largest collections of former Fleet Air Arm airframes in its care ? ? ? ? ?

                                      Great projects by the way!!
                                      Find out what's happening at newarkairmuseum.org
                                      Please help move Chinook ZA717 to Newark Air Museum

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                                      • CeBro
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Sep 2009
                                        • 2155

                                        #20
                                        Now to find that Wyvern rear fuselage.

                                        Good thread, keep it up.

                                        Cees

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