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By: 8th May 2012 at 14:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-A complete guess but the hooks may be bomb related?
By: 8th May 2012 at 14:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-second photo: landing gear?
last photo: bomb shackle?
By: 8th May 2012 at 14:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Wales, North,Mid or South ? It would help narrow it down better. :)
By: 8th May 2012 at 15:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I'm a bit reluctant to say exactly which crash site i is as I don't want a certain self appointed crashsite guardian sending the police (or whoever it would be) round to get me.
By: 8th May 2012 at 16:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Fuse/detonator for grenade/mine etc
By: 8th May 2012 at 16:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-bomb shackle parts and electrical connectors for radio equipment.
TT
By: 8th May 2012 at 20:05 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hey Tim
If you don't get an ID here for all the bits, try over on the EU war relics forum - there are a couple of guys there who can ID anything from a B17. They are pretty amazing...
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/armour-weapons-aircraft-recovery/
All the best
By: 8th May 2012 at 21:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Cheers for that, i'll give them a try!
By: 9th May 2012 at 17:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Hi ALL,can anyone on the forum help me identify them?
Cowl gill or front cowl ring support bracket (some of the bracket is missing).
Part of a tank support strap.
I have a funny feeling, this is the hook of the bomb winch assembly (2 winches per assembly). The only thing that throws me on this is that until I am able to check, I didn't think that these hooks actually had the non slip-off catch on them, they were just a plain hook.
It does not fit the bill as a bomb shackle used by american made bombers.
By: 9th May 2012 at 18:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Bomb rack hook and latch assembly, to which the bomb shackles were attached.
All the best,
PB
By: 9th May 2012 at 18:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If those pieces were for a Spitfire or Mustang, you'd have enough for a rebuild. :)
By: 9th May 2012 at 18:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Bomb rack hook and latch assembly, to which the bomb shackles were attached.
All the best,
PB
Thanks for that.
I knew I was sure that it wasn't the shackle itself. saves me looking for it now? happy days.
Hope this all helps you lankytim?
By: 9th May 2012 at 18:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If those pieces were for a Spitfire or Mustang, you'd have enough for a rebuild. :)
ROFPMSL :D
By: 9th May 2012 at 19:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Parts i/d
The piece in the third pic could be a tank strap or maybe even the attachment bracket for an aircrewmans shoulder straps to a bulkhead or similar strongpoint.
Pic. 4 shows a microphone jack plug, which would have been fitted on the end of the lead and plugged into the aircraft panel somewhere. The little sleeve above it could be a protector for same when not plugged in?
Pic. 5 doesn't appear strong or big enough for bombs hooks. More like a crewmans parachute harness to flight suit attachment hook? I've seen very similar ones on some of the post war flight gear I have.
Anon.
By: 9th May 2012 at 21:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Thanks for all the info guys, just what I was hoping for!
The hook is actually quite beefy, I think a pair of them could deffo handle the weight of a bomb being winched onboard.
Does anybody have an idea what the large flat piece is? I think it's made from stainless steel so I imagine it could be from the exhaust or supercharger area.
Seeing as i'm feeling brave, I'd like to say that this particular B17 is 44-6005 and crashed onto Craig Cwm Lywyd near Dolgelleau in mid Wales. To hell with the consequences!!!!!!
By: 9th May 2012 at 21:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Pic. 4 shows a microphone jack plug, which would have been fitted on the end of the lead and plugged into the aircraft panel somewhere.Anon.
I withdraw my earlier comment, I now see the pointy end is a bit different to the thingie I have sat here. Mine has the kind of pointy bit that you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT want to poke.. altho it's inert now... but leads to me think that shenanigans with what I have & one of those jackplugs could be used for nefarious purposes. Possible use for militant music criticism etc..
By: 10th May 2012 at 01:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Just looked at my photo of part of the bomb assembly from 43-37667 I took about 12 years ago, the hooks are identical, though on that a/c they did not have the anti-slip catches (though there are the remains of something on some of the hooks which could be rusted off catches). However the design of the hooks is the same, even the bolt through the lower section.
p.s. you'll never be found with 44-5005, the a/c which crashed near Barmouth was 44-8639.
By: 10th May 2012 at 10:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Whoops. I should have put 44-6005- my mistake, sorry! All the books I have read have had it down as 44-6005, Where has 44-8639 come from?
I think we have a match on the hook. Well done evryone who said it was from the bomb bay!
http://www.zazzle.co.uk/b_17_bomb_bay_poster-228911077126081950
By: 10th May 2012 at 17:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The accident report is where the correct serial came from.
We didn't publish 6005, neither did Dave Smith in HGWs or Edward Doylerush in No Landing Place Vol.2 (though he did mention the incorrect serial as a note, saying it was incorrect), the spurious serial was published in the appendix of Legend of Llandwrog and No Landing Place Vol.1, and Terence Hill published it in Down in Wales, as did Dave Earl in Hell on High Ground. Those books were all published within a couple of years of each other and it was shortly after that the correct serial was found. Unfortunately once someone publishes an incorrect serial (or other information for that matter) it is very hard to correct the mistake as it can be re-published numerous times and be accepted as true, then you have an up hill battle.
By: 10th May 2012 at 18:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Should also have mentioned that 44-6005 was written off as the result of a fire while on the ground at Chelveston on the 11th August 1944.
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By: lankytim - 8th May 2012 at 13:32
Hi ALL,
Today i've been clearing out the spare room in our house and found a shoebox of parts I recovered from a Welsh B17 crash site around 17 years ago. I have no idea what these parts are, can anyone on the forum help me identify them?
I'm not sure what to do with these parts, as I now know that I shouldn't just walk off with crash site relics but I was about 15 at the time! I don't feel I should put them back, as someone else will simply walk off with them- maybe I should give them to a museum or something?