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  • Peter
    Moderator
    • Jan 2000
    • 12508

    Supermarine Scimitar Leaves Intrepid Museum

    Intrepid Museum sends three aircraft to a new home to make way for Shuttle Enterprise!
    http://www.esam.org/
    Cheers,Peter
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  • Wyvernfan
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    • Oct 2007
    • 5893

    #2
    That is one aeroplane i would love to see return to the UK.
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    • Discendo Duces
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      • Mar 2006
      • 253

      #3
      Originally posted by Wyvernfan View Post
      That is one aeroplane i would love to see return to the UK.
      I'll second that. It should never have left the UK in the first place.

      DD

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      • Lee Howard
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        • Jan 2004
        • 735

        #4
        Can't argue with that. An historic machine, being one of the original 700X aircraft, XD220 was fully overhauled at Fleetlands prior to being put into storage at Brawdy and made its last flight into Lee-on-Solent for further storage before going to Wroughton by road and thence to New York. In theory a potential flyer at that stage!
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        • Mike J
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2000
          • 3241

          #5
          I'm amazed they kept the Etendard, especially at the expense of the Skynight.

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          • Bager1968
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • May 2005
            • 3635

            #6
            True... the Scimitar would go well on the deck of a preserved HMS Ark Royal (or Illustrious).

            It would also be nice if the Skyknight's information display at its new home described its role in Vietnam as a ECM aircraft for the USMC (pre EA-6A/B).
            The Skyknight remained active with the Marine Corps for somewhat longer than it did with the Navy. By the time of Vietnam, EF-10Bs electronic countermeasures aircraft were still serving with VMCJ-1, -2, and -3. They flew tactical jamming and ferret missions out of Da Nang with VMCJ-1 in support of strike aircraft attacking targets in North Vietnam. On such missions, the Skyknight would usually fly a straight-line course across the suspected radar station's position, and the electronic signal receiver and analyzer would reveal the approximate location, type, and range of the enemy radar installation. The job of attacking the radar installation would then be assigned to other aircraft called in for the mission, or, alternatively, the station could be jammed by the Skyknight itself by transmitting opposing electronic signals or by dropping chaff. VMCJ-1 flew 791 missions in support of strikes over North Vietnam and Laos. VMCJ-1 was withdrawn from Vietnam in 1969, and the last Marine Corps EF-10Bs were retired in May of 1970.
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            • Stepwilk
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              • Sep 2010
              • 664

              #7
              The back deck of our house sits 100 feet up and back from the Hudson River, about 60 miles north of Manhattan, with a clear view for 20 miles. If I am super-lucky, I will be looking river-ward when the barge carrying the Scimtar heaves into view, bound north to Schenectady.

              Photo to come, chance in a million.

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              • Alan Key
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                • Jul 2010
                • 50

                #8
                It would be nice if this Scimitar came back to the UK one day but for now let's just hope the new owner has a roof to put over it's head. Does anyone know if this is the case - will it finally be going indoors? If so, it's been a good couple of months for the preservation of rare Supermarine jets (is there any other kind?).

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                • Planemike
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1807

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Stepwilk View Post
                  The back deck of our house sits 100 feet up and back from the Hudson River, about 60 miles north of Manhattan, with a clear view for 20 miles. If I am super-lucky, I will be looking river-ward when the barge carrying the Scimtar heaves into view, bound north to Schenectady.

                  Photo to come, chance in a million.
                  Not too far from Rhinebeck, then.......???

                  Planemike

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                  • Peter
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2000
                    • 12508

                    #10
                    From a video on youtube of the new home, all the aircraft look like they sit outdoors...
                    Cheers,Peter
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                    • Roborough
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 310

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Wyvernfan View Post
                      That is one aeroplane i would love to see return to the UK.
                      But who would take it? The FAAM doesn't need another one and the IWM seems to be having a moritorium on collecting aeroplanes.
                      No it's better staying on this side of the pond then I can go and look it to remind me of part of my miss-spent youth at Fleetlands trying to stop Scimitar wings from peeing fuel all over the shop floor.

                      Regards
                      Bill

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                      • Wyvernfan
                        wyvernfan@gmail.com
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 5893

                        #12
                        I agree about the IWM. FAA aircraft seem to be losing favour with them at the moment.

                        If i had my way? Bruntingthorpe! If it could be given a home there and made taxiable, it would complete the line-up of Scimitar, Sea Vixen and Buccaneer.

                        Only a dream i know, but you did ask
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                        • pagen01
                          St Mawganphile
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 10711

                          #13
                          I have to agree with Bills' sentiments sadly, we have two complete Scimitars* in this country, XD317 nicely presented by the FAA Museum, and the other, XD322, which looked (looks?) really nice, but which rarely seems to see the light of day, http://www.demobbed.org.uk/image_vie...37&s=xd332.jpg
                          I would rather XD220 continues to impress visitors in the 'States, hopefully indoors though.

                          *Always nice to see Tonys' fantastic cockpit section of XD235 as well of course
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                          • Stepwilk
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 664

                            #14
                            Not too far from Rhinebeck, then.......???
                            About 30 miles south of Rhinebeck and on the other (west) side of the river. Scimtar's due in Albany tomorrow (Sunday 4/22) evening, so I'm guessing it'll go past us sometime in the morning.

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                            • Tin Triangle
                              Bright Young Thing
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1218

                              #15
                              My vote would be for Newark if it returned to this country. They have a fine collection of naval types and it would look superb next to the Buccaneer S.1 and Sea Vixen. As for XD332, in external storage, well it's looking increasingly tatty and unloved if these relatively recent pics are anything to go by.
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                              • Augsburgeagle
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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 548

                                #16
                                Its looking rather unwell here:

                                http://www.flickr.com/photos/2918955...6956/lightbox/

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                                • Wyvernfan
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                                  • Oct 2007
                                  • 5893

                                  #17
                                  Oh for crying out load. That is a disgusting way to treat such a rare aeroplane. Outside, with no covers or care whatsoever.
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                                  • pagen01
                                    St Mawganphile
                                    • Aug 2007
                                    • 10711

                                    #18
                                    It looked better when it was at Flambards, looked good (cosmetically at least) at Fairford almost ten years ago, http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ch&um=1&itbs=1
                                    Until we get our house in order I don't think we can really shout about getting one of 'our' jets back, Supermarine jets seem to get a bad deal really.
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                                    • lindoug
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 264

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pagen01 View Post
                                      It looked better when it was at Flambards, looked good (cosmetically at least) at Fairford almost ten years ago, http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...ch&um=1&itbs=1
                                      Until we get our house in order I don't think we can really shout about getting one of 'our' jets back, Supermarine jets seem to get a bad deal really.
                                      How right you are!
                                      Unfortunately these classic jets don't get the same attention as the Spitfires etc. Even on this forum some 5 pages and rising because of the possibility of some Spitfires being alive and possibly well in Burma; whereas this Scimitar draws scant attention...............sad really.
                                      I hope the day will dawn when we award the same respect to the champions of our freedom in the Cold War as we give to those of WW2.

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                                      • Peter
                                        Moderator
                                        • Jan 2000
                                        • 12508

                                        #20
                                        Wow the fate of that one looks worriesome to say the least!
                                        Cheers,Peter
                                        "Merlins always drip oil, when they don't....worry!"

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