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    #41
    Tangmere1940 is better placed to answer questions on this one than me Mike, but it was a Python powered S.4 VZ795.
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      #42
      No, the fuselage was still intact. When I opened up the arrestor hook I could peer down the fuselage and hear water trickling down inside. The rear fuselage came out still marked ROYAL NAVY and VZ795. Tangmere Museum later gave it to a chap called Phil Earthey without my knowledge and he offered to let me have it back...but nothing came of that. Not sure what I'd do with it, anyhow.

      We could see the fuslage was pretty intact, but at near 40ft long and the back of the fin being about 8ft down....well....work it out!
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        #43
        Wyvern

        I can work it out, it's just the hollow bit that I find intrigueing.

        If water was trickling then possibly it was running in and running out again via an underground aquifer, or similar?

        I don't disbelieve you Andy, I'm as interested in this as the rest of 'em. The thought of intact and relatively uncorroded buried aeroplanes fascinates me. At 40ft long though I would think that it has telescoped quite a bit and may not be as deep as first thought.

        I seem to recall that, on this very topic, I posted a pic of the Wyvern tail at Tangmere Museum a year or two back. You could indeed read the stencilled ROYAL NAVY on it.

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          #44
          We should have a Key Forum dig weekend! bring your own shovel.

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            #45
            You'd need lots of very big shovels for this one.......!!!!
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              #46
              Has anybody actually asked Phil what happended to it ?
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                #47
                Does anybody know where Phil actually is?
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                  #48
                  Air Britain Aeromilitaria Summer 1998

                  20 W.34 Wyvern pre-production aircraft ordered 24.6.46 under
                  Contract 6/Acft/S080/CB.9(a) to Spec N.11144 and numbered
                  VR131 to VR150. Only delivered to VR134. VR141 onwards
                  cancelled. (2,690 R-R Eagle 22)

                  VR136 Not delivered; to Gosport 5.5.50 (ex CS(A) charge) as
                  instructional airframe; derelict at Gosport 1959, coded
                  "916" (spurious local code). sometime after 7.59 it was
                  pushed into a chalk pit, along with other aircraft, on the
                  boundary of Gosport (used as a fire pit) and a bulldozer
                  then filled in the pit [Probably either A2226 or A2228].
                  Weather - Fair with cloudy patches, clear by early evening.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by paulmcmillan View Post
                    .....sometime after 7.59 it was
                    pushed into a chalk pit, along with other aircraft, on the
                    boundary of Gosport (used as a fire pit) and a bulldozer
                    then filled in the pit [Probably either A2226 or A2228].
                    I'll wager the back end of this Attacker went into the same pit.

                    I feel a Seafang coming on...

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                      #50
                      Thanks. The TF.1 identity has already been pretty much nailed down. Its the pictured TF.2 that has me scratching my head, as none of them are noted as ending their days at Gosport. My hunch is its either VW871 or VW878 (although both are logged as apparently ending their days elsewhere!)
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                        #51
                        Nice photo Mark. Do you have any others of the Python powered TF.2 Wyvern.. apart from the one viewed from the starboard rear?
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                          #52
                          Originally posted by Wyvernfan View Post
                          Thanks. The TF.1 identity has already been pretty much nailed down. Its the pictured TF.2 that has me scratching my head, as none of them are noted as ending their days at Gosport. My hunch is its either VW871 or VW878 (although both are logged as apparently ending their days elsewhere!)
                          I have a vague recollection of there being an early Wyvern in the Scrapyard at RNAY Fleetlands around 1958. Definitely not an S4, there were a few of them still trickling through the shops as late as 1958. The scrapyard was I believe cleared in the early '60s to make room for the Helipad (or possibly the new apprentice training centre).
                          I worked at Fleetlands from 1957 - 63 and I think the yard had been cleared by the time I left.
                          Does anyone know if Fleetlands will survive the current round of defence cuts?

                          Regards
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                            #53
                            This one?

                            Mark

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                              #54
                              Originally posted by Mark12 View Post
                              I'll wager the back end of this Attacker went into the same pit.
                              I spot a Miles Master or Martinet rudder on the right too.
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                                #55
                                Mark12 - Thats the TF.1. Its the wingless TF.2 thats seems to be elusive (apart from the pic you supplied for the newspaper article).

                                Roborough - That does sound familiar. I'll check through and get back on that one.
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                                  #56
                                  Originally posted by OneEighthBit View Post
                                  I spot a Miles Master or Martinet rudder on the right too.
                                  I thought this was a Firefly at the time.

                                  mark
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                                    #57
                                    Firefly to the left.
                                    It does look nearer to Martinet fin/rudder than a Firefly, especially the rudder line and the relative position of the tailplane.
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                                      #58
                                      Originally posted by OneEighthBit View Post
                                      I spot a Miles Master or Martinet rudder on the right too.
                                      Could that be your Master/Martinet back end behind this Firefly?

                                      Mark

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                                        #59
                                        Roborough - After a quick check the only one i can find that ended up being scrapped at Fleetlands was TF.2 VW876. This came from Farnborough after a wheels up landing there.
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                                          #60
                                          This one?

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