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  • SpeedFanatic
    Registered User
    • Feb 2019
    • 1

    SAP/"Black" project aircraft sightings in the UK!

    Hey all,

    I decided to create a new thread about a sightings of unknown aircraft around the World. There are plenty of similar threads about UFOs but this time it's not about silent triangles which disappeares in a second or two, or flying discs... but this time it's about SAP/Black Projects sightings.

    I'll paste here an examples of such sightings:

    "Early 2000's.A good friend of mine Bill was staying on his boat south of Norwich.About 10pm he was watching F15's perform through his binoculars against a starry sky.A couple of tankers headed home as well.A bit later on hearing more F15's he saw two heading inland with a large, almost tanker sized plane behind them, no lights on it but clearly a triangular shape against the sky."

    "in august 2003 over lowestoft I was watching some f15s dogfighting early evening and a second and third flight coming over later in the evening. Just after 11:00 there was a tanker and another large jet which I could not tell what it was, only 2 engines, come in over the coast and an hour later another tanker and with it was 2 f15s trailling on either side. There was a jet just trailling the tanker slightly in front on the f15s with no nav lights, strange shape to it, a distinctive sound which was hard to tell giving the number of jets up there. Shortly after a C5 came over all on the same flight path. It was a very clear night no moon. I travelled up to the hall and the heath the next day and there was a C5 at hall parked with its tail towards the sheds where the ospreys are based. I was talking to a gentleman at the fence and he made some comments that it was a strange night at lakenheath and that the C5 had been in there and then came over to the hall. Also that lakenheath had some strange activity the night before.. I went up the next night and a few spotters where there but no planes!"

    Those who had any similar sightings, mind you share them on here?

    Cheers!
  • St. John
    Rank 4 Registered User
    • Jan 2018
    • 476

    #2
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoD_Bo...luation_centre

    With the end of the Cold War, the site was renamed the Aircraft and Armament Evaluation Establishment (AAEE) in 1992. All experimental work was moved to the Defence Research Agency (DRA). Responsibility for the site passed from the MoD Procurement Executive to the Defence Test and Evaluation Organisation (DTEO) in 1993.

    During the this period, the station may have been involved in assisting the United States with its black projects. On 26 September 1994, after an aircraft crashed on landing due to a nosewheel collapse, the British Special Air Service (SAS) were scrambled to set up a perimeter around the airfield, while a USAF C5 Galaxy was redirected to the station. It is speculated that the crashed plane was an Aurora, a hypersonic spy plane.[20] Whatever it was, it was disassembled and returned to the US by the C5 Galaxy. Both the British and American Governments have refused to comment on the incident.

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    • Paul F
      Retired Lawnmower Racer
      • May 2005
      • 1103

      #3
      I do not want to stifle discussion, but there always seems to be a tendency to overlook the most 'obvious' solutions when topics like this are raised, especially when sightings are reported second or third-hand, and there is no easy way to trace the sightings back to the original witnesses.


      Assuming the dates of the quoted sightings in post 1 are correct, then there seems to be little 'mystery' as to the likely aircraft types involved, as the F117 was in service 1988 - 2008, and the B2 Spirit has been in service since 1997, and the reported dates of the sightings tie in with those 'in service' dates.

      While those aircraft types may still have been 'unknown' to the observer(s) quoted, knowledge of the existence and operation of both types was in the public domain, and I suspect most aviation enthusiasts would have recognised them, even against a dark background.

      It is possible there was a third, as yet still secret, type involved, but it seems most likely to me that they were sightngs of B2s (or F117s). If memories of dates are a few years out, then the sightings might even have been SR71s, given they were viewed late in the evening against a dark background.


      As for the Boscombe Down incident, it could have involved an F117 or a B2, or any other type carrying sensitive equipment or weapons. Or, it could simply have been a military security exercise. Again, another, as yet unconfirmed, aircraft type may have been involved, but it is hard to find reliable or first-hand accounts of the event on the internet.

      Of course, I could be entirely wrong.














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      • St. John
        Rank 4 Registered User
        • Jan 2018
        • 476

        #4
        Originally posted by Paul F View Post
        As for the Boscombe Down incident, it could have involved an F117 or a B2, or any other type carrying sensitive equipment or weapons. Or, it could simply have been a military security exercise. Again, another, as yet unconfirmed, aircraft type may have been involved, but it is hard to find reliable or first-hand accounts of the event on the internet.

        Of course, I could be entirely wrong.
        The F-117 was made public in 1988 and the B-2 made a public flight in 1989. There would have been no reason to hide the details of a crash of either of these two aircraft. There was a nosewheel collapse on landing. A C-5 was diverted from Rammstein AFB to collect it.

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