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  • Agent K
    Rank 5 Registered User

    #21
    When he calls these mighty fine people then its hard to disassociate him and his supporters from such actions.

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    • St. John
      Rank 3 Registered User

      #22
      When has he ever called Nazis mighty fine people?
      Last edited by St. John; 6th November 2018, 18:23.

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      • MrBlueSky
        Rank 5 Registered User

        #23
         
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        Wrong Forum!

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        • MrBlueSky
          Rank 5 Registered User

          #24
          You want to find out why Donald Trump got to be POTUS watch this...
           
          Last edited by MrBlueSky; 6th November 2018, 12:52.
          Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

          Wrong Forum!

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          • Agent K
            Rank 5 Registered User

            #25
            Watching, we hear the mad gusts tugging on the wire,

            Like twitching agonies of men among its brambles. Wilfred Owen, 1917.

            I saw that beautiful barbed wire going up. Beautiful sight. Donald Trump, 2018.

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            • St. John
              Rank 3 Registered User

              #26
              Well, there is one way to avoid getting caught in the barbed wire.

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              • John Green
                Rank 5 Registered User

                #27
                AK

                Your critical faculty needs an overhaul.

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                • Agent K
                  Rank 5 Registered User

                  #28
                  No, it's fine thanks John, it enables me to separate patriotism from nationalism and facism and blind and unchecked loyalty, something I'd suggest you could benefit from.

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                  • John Green
                    Rank 5 Registered User

                    #29
                    AK, I sense that you are an unlimited reservoir of humane liberalism and compassion directed towards suffering humanity.. I feel that the future of the Green tribe would benefit from plentiful exposure to your liberalism and accordingly have directed Mrs. G to begin packing our miserable chattels before arriving on your doorstep.

                    That's good news isn't it ? The bad news is that the Green tribe is quite a large tribe and once the 'word' gets out that we have found an idiot - correction - kindly humanitarian who will provide for all our needs - that's you - you could find yourself having to shop around for a larger more comfortable residence in which to house your newly acquired extended family.

                    You won't have time to criticise the Brexit negotiations, you'll be too busy working like a slave to provide for your newly arrived guests.who besides requiring food and shelter will of course need at least some pocket money for the necessary expatriate comforts of alcohol and drugs.

                    It goes almost without saying that we will require continual medical care. I'm sure that you're insured. It's not all bad news ! We are, as a tribe, prepared to work and for a lot less than the locals. Minimum wage ? Not us. So the locals don't get the jobs ? Tough cookie. They weren't, apparently, prepared to work anyway.

                    See you shortly. By the way, I do like the Daily Telegraph delivered every day - and ironed.

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                    • St. John
                      Rank 3 Registered User

                      #30
                      Agent K - I really don't know why people lump nationalism together with fascism. If all Hitler had done is put up barbed wire at the border, I doubt his name would have gone down in infamy. I also doubt that mere nationalism would have won him that acclaim either. Let's be sensible about this, border control != holocaust.

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                      • XB-70
                        Rank 2 Registered User

                        #31
                        "I really don't know why people lump nationalism together with fascism."

                        Simple! Nobody wants to debate anymore; everyone just wants to demonize others. EMOTION rules public discourse, sad to say, and reason has been banished into the shadows.

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                        • Agent K
                          Rank 5 Registered User

                          #32
                          Simple, history tells us that one is inextricably linked to and leads to the other, there is no self-regulation of stopping at some arbitary border point. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Galtieri etc. etc. etc.....

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                          • St. John
                            Rank 3 Registered User

                            #33
                            History does not tell us that at all, that's simply a perverse interpretation of history. It's like saying that socialism is inextricably linked to Stalin, Mao, Le Duan, Kim family and Pol Pot's genocides. Socialism is not Communism and Nationalism is not Fascism. Let's not forget also that the Nazi party was the National Socialist Party, so why do we never link Socialism with Hitler or Fascism?
                            Last edited by St. John; 14th November 2018, 09:38.

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