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  • snafu
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 2825

    Britannia not to be recommissioned

    As much as it was an icon for Britain when in service, the former royal yacht Britannia should stay a museum piece rather than be resurrected, as has been proposed in the Daily Telegraph. It was on its last legs when retired, needed specialised base support and staff at its home base (Portsmouth), dedicated fuel vessels (since it was the last vessel using diesel in the navy) and the devotion of one escorting frigate (or larger) when HRH was onboard. With a crew of 271 and a detachment of Royal Marines, plus the crew of the escorting vessel, that is a lot of sailors employed when the navy has been cut to the bone. Back in 1997 it was, apparently, cheaper to build a modern replacement that required fewer crew and would be vastly more economic to run; more economic, of course, to retire Britannia and not replace it...

    Despite having an element of pānis et circēnsēs - Roman, bread and circuses - about it, Downing Street has rejected the idea.

    Downing Street has rejected a Boris Johnson-backed proposal to recommission the royal yacht and use it to conduct trade deals once Britain has left the European Union.

    The ship Britannia, which acted as the Queens private yacht between 1954 and 1997, hosted trade talks in the early 1990s before being axed by Tony Blair in 1997. It is currently docked in Scotland.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7317036.html
    What say you?
  • Jonesy
    Neo-conversative
    • Jan 2000
    • 5097

    #2
    The issue isn't fuel. Dieso is still used in the fleet. The issue with HMY is that she's steam driven. We haven't had a steam plant to maintain in the fleet since Fearless was cut 14 years ago. Steam plants are very manpower intensive as countless valves, seals, joints etc must be checked and tested routinely. Simply put we don't really have that skillset in the surface fleet anymore and would take a while to stand up again.

    It's just an impractical proposition.

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    • John Green
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Mar 2011
      • 6643

      #3
      Use it for gunnery practice. Unless of course, we don't any more use guns.

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      • ~Alan~
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Mar 2010
        • 5019

        #4
        The owners of Britannia, "The Royal Yacht Britannia Trust" would have a say in this.
        I doubt very much they would let it leave Edinburgh.
        Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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        • Bmused55
          Aaahh Emu!
          • Oct 2003
          • 11136

          #5
          Just buy an Yacht from a billionaire looking for a new toy, job done!
          Bmused55

          Keep thy airspeed up, less the earth come from below and smite thee.

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          • Creaking Door
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Sep 2006
            • 9815

            #6
            Originally posted by John Green View Post
            Use it for gunnery practice...
            As a target?
            WA$.

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            • John Green
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Mar 2011
              • 6643

              #7
              What else ?

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              • snafu
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 2825

                #8
                That isn't the John Green I was expecting.



                Where is he, what have you done with him?

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                • John Green
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 6643

                  #9
                  Full of surprises.

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                  • snafu
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 2825

                    #10
                    Full of something, yeah.;o)

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                    • John Green
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 6643

                      #11
                      You would know.

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                      • snafu
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 2825

                        #12
                        You should know.

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                        • bazv
                          olde rigger
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 5860

                          #13
                          Snaff and JG - quality not quantity is an alternative way of posting on forums etc.
                          Forum sniping is just tedious for most !

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                          • snafu
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 2825

                            #14
                            He started it. ;o)

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                            • bazv
                              olde rigger
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 5860

                              #15
                              Signed Snaff - age 4

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                              • John Green
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 6643

                                #16
                                I always rise to a challenge - no matter how inferior.

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                                • Argonaut
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Dec 2011
                                  • 304

                                  #17
                                  To the best of my knowledge the Danish Royal family still have a Royal Yacht , it was certainly still in use about 5 years ago, a beautiful sight in Copenhagen Harbour. Click image for larger version

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                                  • John Green
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Mar 2011
                                    • 6643

                                    #18
                                    Do you know who pays for its upkeep ?

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                                    • paul178
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Mar 2011
                                      • 2925

                                      #19
                                      We do pay for some of it until we leave the EU I suppose.
                                      I have kleptomania,But when it gets bad
                                      I take something for it.

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                                      • Argonaut
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Dec 2011
                                        • 304

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by John Green View Post
                                        Do you know who pays for its upkeep ?
                                        I have no idea who pays for its upkeep, I would think the Danish government, the Royal family are held in high regard in Denmark.

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