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  • paulmcmillan
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Jan 2000
    • 2650

    Jaguar To Build Another 9 XKSS

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/24/au...w-jaguar-xkss/


    Now if only we can convince Jaguar to build limited edition Spitfire and Lancasters and from their Castle Bromwich site ?

    Were any damaged during production where gaps in C/N exist ?
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  • Mike J
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2000
    • 3241

    #2
    Originally posted by paulmcmillan View Post
    Were any damaged during production where gaps in C/N exist ?
    Why would that be necessary? There are still plenty of Tesco bags full of corroded, mangled shards of aluminium dug from muddy fields in existence, in order to to give identities and legitimacy to newly-build airframes.

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    • Sabrejet
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Mar 2010
      • 1756

      #3
      Hear hear! However I did assume Post #1 was tongue-in-cheek...
      Last edited by Peter; 26th March 2016, 22:11. Reason: See rules regarding Quote use

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      • 1batfastard
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Jan 2013
        • 3424

        #4
        Hi All,
        While I love the idea of these continuation builds at the same time I can't help thinking they are just cash cows and making money on the rarity of whatever vehicle they will produce, even possibly reducing the whatever original rare vehicles value or am I being to cynical ?

        Geoff.

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        • jeepman
          infrequent poster now
          • Apr 2004
          • 1982

          #5
          Originally posted by paulmcmillan View Post
          http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/24/au...w-jaguar-xkss/


          Now if only we can convince Jaguar to build limited edition Spitfire and Lancasters and from their Castle Bromwich site ?

          Were any damaged during production where gaps in C/N exist ?
          Funny how Jaguar keep finding unused blocks of chassis numbers - the programme about the run of Lightweight E types was shown again recently . I seem to remember that one or two experten were slightly sniffy about the new builds
          JM

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          • Junk Collector
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Aug 2006
            • 1464

            #6
            More Mk3 Spitfires please, so sick of the others, I have a data plate for one
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            • Sabrejet
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Mar 2010
              • 1756

              #7
              Originally posted by 1batfastard View Post
              Hi All,
              While I love the idea of these continuation builds at the same time I can't help thinking they are just cash cows and making money on the rarity of whatever vehicle they will produce, even possibly reducing the whatever original rare vehicles value or am I being to cynical ?

              Geoff.
              It doesn't seem to work that way: there are plenty of GTO 'toolroom' copies but prices for originals and replicas keeps rising. Ditto pontoon-fender Testa Rossas and Aston DB4GT Zagatos.

              What Jaguar is doing in nothing new and gives us a chance of seeing (in the case of the E-Type Lightweights rather than the XKSS) period-correct cars racing in anger, where the originals are becoming too risky to race. More power to their elbow I say.

              Last week's Goodwood Member's Meeting contained a great many cars "...of various provenance" as commentator Marcus Pye nicely put it. I doubt many noticed.

              Difficult to see where Jaguar would go now though: XJ13 maybe?

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              • 1batfastard
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Jan 2013
                • 3424

                #8
                Hi All,
                Sabrejet,
                Like I wrote it is nice but and if as you say it does not affect the original survivor cars value then keep at it, one problem with that I just wondered would there then be a glut of them if customers asked for more or would they be regarded as the next generation and accepted for that ?

                What about a nice modern 24v Dolomite Sprint always the Dolomites the smell in my 1850 was lovely it was like wearing a sofa every time I drove it.....

                Geoff.

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                • Meddle
                  Rank Bajin.
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 1626

                  #9
                  Who will buy these, and will they be driven?

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                  • Sideslip
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 639

                    #10
                    Why is this thread in 'Historic Aviation'?
                    Work! You don't know what work is. When I was a boy...

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                    • richw_82
                      White Knuckle Airlines
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1678

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jeepman View Post
                      Funny how Jaguar keep finding unused blocks of chassis numbers - the programme about the run of Lightweight E types was shown again recently . I seem to remember that one or two experten were slightly sniffy about the new builds
                      While the last lot were genuinely 'unallocated' Lightweight E-type chassis numbers, I'm not sure how they can find similar numbers for the XKSS. The XKSS was created out of a D-type to sell unused obsolete racing cars, so each one has a D-type chassis number (XKD xxx) which was then replaced with an XKSS chassis number on conversion (XKSS xxx). There wasn't really any that didn't get used as a result - you'd just be making up random numbers.

                      From what I hear they plan to use the numbers of those that got destroyed in the factory fire - but then that ringing isn't it?

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                      • Duggy
                        Flight SIM Pilot
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 1133

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sideslip View Post
                        Why is this thread in 'Historic Aviation'?

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                        • J Boyle
                          With malice towards none
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 9791

                          #13
                          There is a market for quality replicas, some D types go for 200-300,000...to say nothing of the exact Pur Sang Bugattis and Alfas.
                          And the recent 2004-6 Ford GTs are bucking the typical supercar trend and are bringing double their original price.

                          The lesson seems to be even guys who can afford a very expensive car lust after rare originals that even they can't afford.

                          BTW, I saw a real XK-SS cross an auction block in Arizona in 2003, it was bid to just under $1 million...but didn't sell, the owner wanted more.
                          Last edited by J Boyle; 25th March 2016, 05:41.
                          There are two sides to every story. The truth is usually somewhere between the two.

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                          • minimans
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 398

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Duggy View Post

                            I see they had to put the Jaguar on a mat, guess it was puking more oil than the radial behind it...........

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                            • Sabrejet
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 1756

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sideslip View Post
                              Why is this thread in 'Historic Aviation'?
                              Car (auto) and aircraft technology often run in parallel paths: in the case of the D-Type/XKSS it was probably the first race car to employ aluminium monocoque construction (though I know there was the Issigonis Special prior to that), so it has a great deal in common with aircraft of the 40s/50s.

                              Recent carbon fibre construction methods again began in the race car world with CanAm in the '60's and on that occasion it took aerospace a while to catch up. Use of titanium again was echoed in race cars (CanAm again), and there are many 'wings and wheels' type events which deliberately cater for the phenomena of car enthusiasts also being interested in aviation.

                              Graham Warner, Spencer Flack and many others raced cars and operated historic aircraft.

                              Aside from that, many historic aircraft engines survive and run, only because they are fitted in race cars: I'm thinking of the unique Sunbeam Maori, various WW1-era aero-engined specials etc. There is even a FIAT-based monster which races with an Isotta-Fraschini airship engine.

                              So (for me, as one with interests in both camps), perfectly appropriate here.

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                              • Sideslip
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 639

                                #16
                                [QUOTE=Sabrejet;2302765 Graham Warner, Spencer Flack and many others raced cars and operated historic aircraft. [/QUOTE]

                                I once saw Stephen Grey at Duxford riding a bike. How about a thread on the Raleigh Wayfarer?
                                Work! You don't know what work is. When I was a boy...

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                                • Piston
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Jun 2015
                                  • 253

                                  #17
                                  Ref appropriateness of the thread. Malcolm Sayer was the major aerodynamasist and stylist/designer at Jaguar, he learnt his trade at Bristol Aeroplanes.

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                                  • dant
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Sep 2008
                                    • 35

                                    #18
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                                    A green Jag in front of a plane? Here's my daily driver in front of XR713 a few weeks ago. Last of Malcolm Sayer's designs

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                                    • AVI
                                      AVI
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Oct 2004
                                      • 329

                                      #19
                                      Jags

                                      The car I really lusted after was the E-Type coupe, but it cost $500 more than the roadster, more than I could afford on the pay of a 2LT, so a roadster was what I ended up with in '67, one of the last covered-headlight roadsters - factory new with 12 miles on the odometer when I picked it up in Coventry. The budget was so tight I had to settle for painted wire wheels instead of the chrome wheels, but it came with much improved radial tires.
                                      The frustrating part was driving back to base in Germany with the rpm limitations imposed by the break-in
                                      period of the 4.2 engine which limited top speed to around 60 mph - on roads with no speed limits.
                                      After the break-in period, I'd cruise at around 125 mph. Above 130, the front end got awfully light ... nothing on the road was faster, the
                                      only competition came from the occasional Porsche 911S or Ferrari. I did own a coupe years later, one I bought for $1000 with a slipping clutch.

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                                      • 1batfastard
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Jan 2013
                                        • 3424

                                        #20
                                        Hi All,
                                        Talking of Jaguar e-types I love this shot two of the best of British designs IMHO............
                                        More info on this very car at this web site:- http://www.jaguarheritage.com/t/othercars_022

                                        1970 E-type S3 2+2 with Jaguar aircraft.
                                        Geoff.

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