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By: - 10th May 2015 at 17:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As was 1997 to 2010.........
By: - 10th May 2015 at 17:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes, my heart bleeds
By: - 10th May 2015 at 19:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
But doing so has crushed the two opposing parties to such an extent...
I wouldn't be so sure.....the British electorate are incredibly fickle!
By: - 10th May 2015 at 20:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
"The SNP is now the "principal opposition" to Conservatives in Westminster, Nicola Sturgeon has said as she confirmed her party will attempt to force another referendum in Scotland."
Seems to me Sturgeon needs a few lessons in a) arithmetic and b) politics. About 1.5 million voters in Scotland elected her 56 MPs out of about 30 million who voted in total.
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
We can only hope that she gets her wish and Scotland leaves the UK.
Moggy
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It would be a solution but I reckon a majority of Scots still know which side their bread is buttered!
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As was 1997 to 2010.........
And 1979 to 1997..
I don't actually disagree with the OP. I think the Tories have at least 10 years now. Labour has a lot of work to do, and like him or loathe him, Mr Blair can show the way. He is after all, the only Laboir leader to be elected to power since 1974.
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I would have thought that with all his baggage past and present Blair is about the last person Labour needs to help them rebuild. They need fresh faces and a fresh philosophy.
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Except for the fact that New Labour as an experiment was successful. Tony Blair and his supporters inhabited the centre ground of politics at the time -the swing to the left with Ed clearly didn't work . Ed was trying to make the workers support him whilst ignoring the people who had made money in the Blair times -the small businessman and the self employed contractors
Whilst its shouldn't be a popularity contest - there has to be an understanding in Labour that having a leader that people actually like or will warm to is a massive help!
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
With Scotland out of the equation certainly for the time being, and a rigging of constituency boundaries on the way, it's going to take a lot of work to pull Labour back, all the Tories need to do is continue with their cuts in the North, London and Wales, keep the rest sweet and they are home and dry.
By: - 10th May 2015 at 21:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That's undeniable but I cannot believe he is their only hope. If so I would suggest they have no hope. Nor can I see Blair sacrificing his millionaire lifestyle to return to British politics. Can you?
"A rigging of the constituency boundaries"? You clearly misunderstand what they are and how the system works. Nothing is being rigged - these changes are long overdue.
By: - 11th May 2015 at 13:44 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
At least one business owner thinks so too
Now where is my blackboard and chalk.....
By: - 11th May 2015 at 14:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
As a strong supporter of the election result I think that is very amusing! A sense of humour is essential to ease the passageway through life!;)
Very disappointed to read that the new DECC Minister is likely to continue the deeply flawed energy policies. I hoped for Owen Patterson.
By: - 11th May 2015 at 14:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Now let's scrap the human rights act, deport all the foreign criminals and hate 'preachers', have that referendum and tell the EU to go forth and mulitply...
By: - 11th May 2015 at 15:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
...all the Tories need to do is continue with their cuts in the North, London and Wales, keep the rest sweet and they are home and dry.
And by 'continue with their cuts' you mean spend a disproportionately larger sum of public money in Scotland, the North, Wales and, to a much lesser extent, certain parts of London?
By: - 11th May 2015 at 15:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
That means this election has been a disaster for democracy and the UK.
The current form of representative democracy where unqualified people are placed in charge of principal ministerial posts is a disaster anyway.
For example; what qualifications or experience did Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling or George Osborne have in the field of economics?
2 historians and a solicitor? Aye, very good.
"The SNP is now the "principal opposition" to Conservatives in Westminster, Nicola Sturgeon has said as she confirmed her party will attempt to force another referendum in Scotland."
I thought she'd been quoted as specifically saying she wouldn't be pushing for a referendum (outside exceptional circumstances such as leaving eurozone) as they did not have it in their manifesto therefore did not have a mandate to do so...?
I believe (open to correction of course) that the SNP were going to use the local elections to put the referendum back on their manifesto, and if they got power in the scottish parliament, then they'd have a mandate for a second referendum.
By: - 11th May 2015 at 15:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Except for the fact that New Labour as an experiment was successful.
Successful by what yardstick?
Getting re-elected?
Or laying solid foundations for the future of the country?
On the former, they were successful, on the latter, a complete disaster.
Why oh why can their not be someone between the tories and labour?
A group that:
- won't reshape the tax policies to dramatically benefit the ultra rich and multi-nationals (tories)
- aren't financially inept (labour)
- don't have ridiculous notions of 50% of population being fit for university education (labour)
- after reaching zero deficit, won't then impose tax cuts but instead invest in infrastructure, research, health and education (tories).
etc
etc
By: - 11th May 2015 at 16:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Hurrah!!!! Nigel's changed his mind!!!:very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk:
By: - 11th May 2015 at 16:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Amiga - I think you're correct. That part of my post was a quotation from The Scotsman, I think.
By: - 11th May 2015 at 17:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Successful by what yardstick?Getting re-elected?
Or laying solid foundations for the future of the country?On the former, they were successful, on the latter, a complete disaster.
Why oh why can their not be someone between the tories and labour?
A group that:
- won't reshape the tax policies to dramatically benefit the ultra rich and multi-nationals (tories)
- aren't financially inept (labour)
- don't have ridiculous notions of 50% of population being fit for university education (labour)
- after reaching zero deficit, won't then impose tax cuts but instead invest in infrastructure, research, health and education (tories).etc
etc
There is and they're even better than that. They are UKIP !
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By: hampden98 - 10th May 2015 at 16:53
The Conservatives winning the General Election has placed the best party in control of this country.
But doing so has crushed the two opposing parties to such an extent that they will not be major political players for
at least 10 years IMHO (maybe more).
That means this election has been a disaster for democracy and the UK. Because for the foreseeable future there will be no
alternative to the Conservatives.