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By: 20th November 2014 at 12:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The first step in releasing our country from EU serfdom would be a popular referendum.
Now let's think... Which party, if elected, will give us the referendum?
Moggy
By: 20th November 2014 at 13:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If enough people vote for them - UKIP
It won't be Dave, he can't be trusted in any direction ! He has form.
By: 20th November 2014 at 13:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-If enough people vote for them - UKIP.
Which of course ain't gonna happen - as we all know!
By: 20th November 2014 at 14:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Without - I hope - tempting fate, is this day, the day that Nigel and UKIP take their first confident steps on the path to Government ?
Sounds a little like my sister back in the days when she was apparently going to be Mrs Simon Le Bon; if only she knew then that she never would, but instead marry a railway manager from Braintree...
Yes, as the old saying goes: if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. English beggars, obviously. We don't want none of your foreign beggars around here, thank you.
By: 20th November 2014 at 14:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Lucky escape for your sister I'd surmise?
Moggy
By: 20th November 2014 at 17:14 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-The rock industry's loss was Network Rail's gain!
By: 20th November 2014 at 17:25 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Not if you look at the performance of the railways. I can't think that she was actually responsible.
By: 20th November 2014 at 17:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Passenger miles on the British railway network have all but doubled in the last twenty years after remaining more or less stable from 1950. So maybe she has contributed.
When did they marry Charlie?
Moggy
By: 20th November 2014 at 18:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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Now let's think... Which party, if elected, will give us the referendum?
Seeing as it's their only policy, that would be UKIP. :D
ALL of the other main parties have previously promised referendums and not delivered. Why should we believe them now?
I REALLY hope UKIP win with a total landslide, just to show those in Westminster that their time of false promises, reckless spending (no pun intended) and 'rubber stamping' ever more devolution of powers to foreign governments is over.
By: 20th November 2014 at 19:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Moggy - pass. That's a question for Snafu.
Jaz - just the thought of that fills me with deep anxiety. That a party with few policies which make any realistic sense actually being given the levers of power makes a mockery of the electorate who voted for them.
By: 20th November 2014 at 20:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Charlie,
Let me sooth your anxiety. If, in the worst possible case, UKIP find themselves in Parliament with a clear majority but no particular other policies apart from our removal from the EU's embrace, the country will continue to function exactly as before - seamlessly.
Eventually and in good time - the best possible way, UKIPs policies will slide into place. I have two suggestions for Nigel:
A new Cabinet post : A Minister For Priorities
A new peoples lottery, the proceeds to go to defence procurement plus of course, the usual contributions from taxation.
By: 20th November 2014 at 20:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-A quote from the Guardian, just after the first party leaders debate prior to the 2010 General Election:
"Nick Clegg has surged into contention as a potential prime minister, according to a Guardian/ICM poll carried out following last night's TV leaders' debate.
A quarter of voters who watched the three leaders on the ITV programme say they will switch their vote, with most changing to theLiberal Democrats."
And from the Telegraph....
"Exploiting his equal billing with the two main party leaders,*Mr Clegg presented himself as the voice of “fairness” and challenged his rivals to be honest with the public. His tactics appeared to have paid off with three separate polls putting Mr Clegg far ahead of Mr Cameron and Mr Brown."
Come 2019, it will be interesting to re-read some of this year's articles...
By: 20th November 2014 at 21:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-John
Rather than soothing any anxieties your first paragraph confirms them irrevocably. And this from one of UKIP's strongest supporters displays no more than blind faith in a deeply lost cause.
Mahone - I hope one of the things a new government does is to repeal the fixed Parliamentary term legislation.
By: 20th November 2014 at 21:48 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Charlie,Let me sooth your anxiety. If, in the worst possible case, UKIP find themselves in Parliament with a clear majority but no particular other policies apart from our removal from the EU's embrace, the country will continue to function exactly as before - seamlessly.
Eventually and in good time - the best possible way, UKIPs policies will slide into place.
The SNP said exactly the same thing and it was dismissed as porridge gargle, probably by 'your lot'.
By: 21st November 2014 at 09:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-To all the many UKIP supporters on this forum, now is not the time for unbridled triumphalism but instead, quiet satisfaction at a job done exceedingly well.
I expect UKIP to win the next three or four by-elections that may occur as a consequence of that number of Tory MPs switching their allegiance.
The first but necessary step towards our political disentanglement from continental affairs.
Raise your glass to Nigel.
By: 21st November 2014 at 10:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I trust you have become a member John, as confirmation of your unbridled enthusiasm!!
By: 21st November 2014 at 10:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-To all the many UKIP supporters on this forum, now is not the time for unbridled triumphalism but instead, quiet satisfaction at a job done exceedingly well.I expect UKIP to win the next three or four by-elections that may occur as a consequence of that number of Tory MPs switching their allegiance.
The first but necessary step towards our political disentanglement from continental affairs.
Raise your glass to Nigel.
This is despite the media in general, being anti-UKIP.
By: 21st November 2014 at 11:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Re 18 & 17
As the wind of change becomes a gale, so will the media change. But, yes, I do agree, they are anti UKIP. I do not include the Guardian because they aren't really 'the media'.
Not yet Charlie but I'm working on it !
By: 21st November 2014 at 13:54 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I am genuinely surprised you are only "working on it". Surely all you have to do is fill in the form and send a nice donation!! Does your hesitancy imply a lingering doubt.....?
By: 21st November 2014 at 14:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I am genuinely surprised you are only "working on it". Surely all you have to do is fill in the form and send a nice donation!! Does your hesitancy imply a lingering doubt.....?
Probably bedridden.
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By: John Green - 20th November 2014 at 11:51
Without - I hope - tempting fate, is this day, the day that Nigel and UKIP take their first confident steps on the path to Government ?
It seems likely - without making oneself a hostage to fortune - that UKIP will sweep the board at Rochester. An emphatic win might well result in a trickle of Tory defectors to the UKIP machine. That trickle could become a stream, resulting in a seismic shift in British politics.
Almost too delicious to contemplate ! Can you imagine the gnashing of left wing teeth ? The first step in releasing our country from EU serfdom.