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By: 23rd June 2014 at 16:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Well I did some work years back in a prison, unless you have seen it with your own eyes, listened to it, smelt and tasted the place no one can ever imagine what it is like.
Now the problem is with absconding is that they give the worst ones the opportunity to do so.
CONTROVERSY NOW.
They let out hardened criminals but sex offenders, the lowest % of re offending are not entitled to home leave as it is perceived that an uproar would occur within the press etc, so a high level murderer/armed robber would be afforded home leave but not a family man who had some images of fully clothed 15, 16, 17 year old (classed as children of course)
I am not saying that sex offenders should be allowed out I am merely pointing out who is allowed home leave and who is not.
I cannot see any good reason to be allowed out before your earliest release date,
The government should act by having halfway houses for the high risk who upon reaching a date and time must be released (unless on IPP indeterminate sentences) A majority of sex offenders have to go to these for at least one month. to ad insult to injury, the one in Basildon Essex overlooks a school !!! Can you believe that?
And just one thing, a lot of prisoners are not bothered about being put away time after time, it gives them a few months away from home without responsibility, I could go on for hours about this subject including.
How drugs get into jails
How mobile phones get into jails
Corruption by inmates and staff ( I did send in a very long report of which I was told to destroy or be seen as causing trouble for on high)
The moving of inmates between prisons when the inspectorate is visiting ( move baddies who will spill the beans out and replace with Mr nice guys)
Because of the way prisons are run by the ministry with all the rhetoric and kerfuffle clouding the truth, and I tell you know its going get worse before it gets better, 2 and 3 sharing a cell made for one, 13 foot by 7 foot, a garden shed for 3 is just a hornets nest of stingass waiting to kick off.
Anyway, my 4 pence worth said.
By: 23rd June 2014 at 16:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Nothing you have said above surprises me in the least, TA. And your 4 penn'orth was well said!! Not enough people are aware of the failures and inconsistencies of the system.:mad:
By: 23rd June 2014 at 16:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Charlie, thank you for your kind words, its very frustrating.
By: 23rd June 2014 at 18:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Having dealt with the crap of the Earth we are talking about, they should remain IN PRISON, where they cannot escape. The North Sea Camp not far from me, is one such halfway home, and I have been to burglaries that one or two of these scum have committed, and the thing that winds me up are the P.C. Brigade who will possibly say that the day release is a good thing, however, try telling the woman, whoe's house they have burgled. 9 out of 10 burglaries I have attended, has caused the occupants to sell their house and move elsewhere.The effect of being burgled is very traumatic to all those who lived there.
What's the old saying, "If you cant do the time, don't do the crime". They know what they are doing when they commit these sorts of crime, and if I had MY way, I would take away every privilage they now have, and make them do their full time without any chance of parole.Prison is just that, they crossed the line, they should lose every freedom they had on the outside, no excuses.They should be treated like they are as they are in that prison in Arizona, work on a chain gang from dawn till dusk, no T.V. zilch. The Warden stated he has NEVER had anyone go back there for a second time, and that's how it should be over here.And as for three sharing the Cell made for just one, well folks, don't that bring tears to your eyes?.NOT.
Jim.
Lincoln .7
By: 24th June 2014 at 13:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Yes Jim, the should not get home leave, also if you re offend, IE commit another crime, (not breach a condition) they should have double the sentence, do it a third time treble the sentence.
You have to have probation hostels as to let someone out after two or three years away is madness to let them fend for themselves, the convict will say they are ok, but its a big stress point as most think they are being looked at and everyone knows they have just come out of prison.
The biggest problem in re offending is that the courts can only send them down for what the guidelines say instead of being able to be an unlimited time unless they are considered dangerous and then the judge can impose a indeterminate sentence for public protection, (IPP) which meens they have to be assessed before release and not at halfway point.
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By: snafu - 14th June 2014 at 11:09
It does seem that there appears to be an awful lot of the sort of people you wouldn't expect to be serving time in such places...in such places.
Convicted murderers who are repeated escapees, lifers, the kind of people who, having escaped, are described as a danger to the public. And with an already overcrowded prisons system being told to take more inmates, is there something rotten at the core of the ministry for prisons and those who make decisions?