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    #41
    Or is it hawkish generals testing out the new leader.....?
    Charlie

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      #42
      I doubt he makes decisions on his own but being so young and under the influence of others naivety can be just as dangerous.
      Last edited by Deano; 8th April 2013, 13:30. Reason: COC RULE 14

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        #43
        Originally posted by charliehunt View Post
        Or is it hawkish generals testing out the new leader.....?
        That's my theory on it. I dont think that its been the Comunist Party running things for quite some time now. I tend to think that its the military that's at the helm, at the present time.
        "Behold! The Wings of Horus"

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          #44
          Indeed, I had thought the communist model was subsumed by military dictatorship, in all but name, sometime ago.
          Charlie

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            #45
            Rumours have it the Paras have been recalled from Easter break and put on 24 hour alert to move to Korea

            http://www.arrse.co.uk/intelligence-...penisular.html

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              #46
              Monitoring the news networks today, I still think that the Chinese will not allow the 'Honourable' Kim Jong Un, to unleash his armed forces on the South. I just don't think it's in his interest to do it, within a few hours maybe even sooner, his socialist paradise will be dust.
              "Behold! The Wings of Horus"

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                #47
                Originally posted by TonyT View Post
                Rumours have it the Paras have been recalled from Easter break and put on 24 hour alert to move to Korea

                http://www.arrse.co.uk/intelligence-...penisular.html
                Dubious grapevine! What have British paratroups to do with N.Korea? Sounds like mischief-making to me....
                Charlie

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                  #48
                  But the US has, and as the latest dwarf in charge of North Korea has declared a War on the South after eating his latest Donkey, one would imagine it's a safety precaution.

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                    #49
                    I would imagine that the SKs really wouldnt need too much help defeating NK. It would be a horrible mess, regardless, but I have no doubts about the outcome.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by TonyT View Post
                      But the US has, and as the latest dwarf in charge of North Korea has declared a War on the South after eating his latest Donkey, one would imagine it's a safety precaution.
                      Indeed it has and that point is taken but I doubt very much that the UK is involved but I stand to be corrected.

                      And remember that the state of war has never ended - I think his dad forgot to tell him.
                      Charlie

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                        #51
                        Do remember that the Korean war was (is) between the North Koreans and the United Nations, not just the United States.
                        As China is now a member of the U.N., perhaps it could be asked to supply troops to fight against the North, now there's an intriguing thought.

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                          #52
                          To be quite correct it is between North Korea and South Korea, the former originally supported by China and the latter by the UN. Since I believe that the UN is a non-aggressive organisation I am unclear as to is role in this situation.
                          Charlie

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                            #53
                            Originally posted by TonyT View Post
                            But the US has, and as the latest dwarf in charge of North Korea has declared a War on the South after eating his latest Donkey, one would imagine it's a safety precaution.
                            He is a Lamb, being lead by older Tigers, many of which I have no doubt would love to see a War.
                            Jim.
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                              #54
                              They're a bit like the kids who used to sit at the back of the class making rafia baskets. They used to shout sometimes but they were harmless enough.

                              Leave 'em alone I say, there's room for at least one bonkers country in the world, it would be awfully grey if they went.

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                                #55
                                China the key?

                                Originally posted by MSR777 View Post
                                Monitoring the news networks today, I still think that the Chinese will not allow the 'Honourable' Kim Jong Un, to unleash his armed forces on the South. I just don't think it's in his interest to do it, within a few hours maybe even sooner, his socialist paradise will be dust.
                                MSR777, I quite agree with your comments, China is the one country to have major influence over North Korea and the wee boy Kim, they ultimately have the power stop the Stalinist states posturing without firing a shot. After all, China's global trade will be severely affected, they are now members of UN and would earn respect if they tackled Pyongyang diplomatically.

                                Lastly I do not think the wee boy rules, it is the old army generals.

                                Gerry R

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                                  #56
                                  With 1-3 Billion Chinese, I doubt they would think about taking them on. a no- brainer, if you ask me
                                  Jim.
                                  Lincoln .7
                                  There is no such thing as a problem, just a solution!!

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                                    #57
                                    The South Koreans would love a unified Korea, at least the ones I've talked to while I've been there - it's a deep national wound for them.

                                    As regards troop recalls, I would think it prudent to get our rapid reaction force onto a state of alert just in case it escalates, it's not like they've set off on C41's armed for bear. Wouldn't be surprised if certain black clad Herefordhire gents were on their way though (not based on anything other than that's what I'd be doing if I was PM).

                                    Saddam Hussein caught us napping in 1990, so why wouldn't the alert state go up when the DPRK gets mouthy. Oh, and unlikey as it might seem I would imagine there is a lot more intelligence available to the powers that be than we could imagine.

                                    The DPRK is an embarresment to China but they need to extract themselves without loss of face so I reckon there's going to be a lot of diplomatic shouting while the US and RoK surgically remove the aggressive military elements from the North's leadership.

                                    We'll see...
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                                      #58
                                      All of this presupposes that the new young inexperienced leader (or his older muscle-flexing generals) want a war against superior odds.

                                      I don't believe that to be the case. And what is the justification for putting armed UK troops on the ground - in any guise?
                                      Charlie

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                                        #59
                                        We will show solidarity with the US, there is no other justification needed I'm afraid. Probably goes back to the 'Axis of Evil' days, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in the old UN mandates after the Korean War that obliges member states to protect the sovereignty of Soth Korea.

                                        We went to war in Iraq a few years ago for thinner reasons remember.
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                                        2. Do not go near the edges of it.
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                                          #60
                                          Yes I am sure we would, if it ever came to it, but I doubt that in 2013 that will involve UK servicemen on the ground. Maybe our support will be the corollary of US support for us in Libya.
                                          Charlie

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