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  • topspeed
    Get on uppah !
    • Jan 2009
    • 2660

    Did you know...flying in Mars is possible ?

    I read it has same atmosphere similar to that 35 km on earth but 1/3 gravity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars

    Here is my ship to fly directly to Mars from Earth. It is possible..but no funding so far.

    You can pick up speed closer to the sun and get about 400 000 km/h speed using solar wind...right.

    rgds,

    Juke
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    If it looks good, it will fly good !
    -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


    http://max3fan.blogspot.com/
  • topspeed
    Get on uppah !
    • Jan 2009
    • 2660

    #2
    There is also a car design ( here for Europa mission ).
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    If it looks good, it will fly good !
    -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


    http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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    • Newforest
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Apr 2005
      • 8893

      #3
      Disappointed, looking forward to a Martin Mars!
      http://www.flightmemory.com/ I have been round the world 11.83 times!

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      • topspeed
        Get on uppah !
        • Jan 2009
        • 2660

        #4
        Originally posted by Newforest View Post
        Disappointed, looking forward to a Martin Mars!

        So you don't think it cool to fly to Mars...and in Mars ?
        If it looks good, it will fly good !
        -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


        http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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        • Meddle
          Rank Bajin.
          • Sep 2014
          • 1628

          #5
          The first man to get a Martin Mars on Mars gets a Mars Bar.

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          • topspeed
            Get on uppah !
            • Jan 2009
            • 2660

            #6
            Originally posted by Meddle View Post
            The first man to get a Martin Mars on Mars gets a Mars Bar.

            I am a finn and our language is ancient European ( before you kelts came here from east ) anyway...we say mars matkaan ! It means...let's get going !
            If it looks good, it will fly good !
            -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


            http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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            • Propstrike
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Mar 2004
              • 4010

              #7
              What did he newspaper headline writer compose when his mother dropped her chocolate confectionary bar on his photograph or Mars ?

              ''Ma's Mars mars Mars''


              Thank you, Thank you ! I am here all week................




              Good luck with the funding TS. I like the drawings.

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              • topspeed
                Get on uppah !
                • Jan 2009
                • 2660

                #8
                Thanks Propstrike..this could mean a new era in space flight.

                One fellow counted me the temperature in 80 km at M8.

                Can you believe it..Shuttle was + 1500 C here ( outside temperature +5000 C ).
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                If it looks good, it will fly good !
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                • topspeed
                  Get on uppah !
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2660

                  #9
                  There was still a small glitch..now it should work.

                  Anyone wanna fund this 20 000 kg empty weight STAR EAGLE ?
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                  • topspeed
                    Get on uppah !
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2660

                    #10
                    Here is a stunt you could pull with 2 Star Eagle crafts...and one TINMAN lander capsule.

                    Send one SE 8 months beforehand to Jupiter ( closer route to Saturn ) and then send Tinman and two service modules seme route ( via Mercury using solar sails ).
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                    If it looks good, it will fly good !
                    -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


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                    • topspeed
                      Get on uppah !
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2660

                      #11
                      There was a still small glitch..the M5 + 5000 m/s is not quite 28 000 km/h..it need s abit more juice.

                      Here !



                      Of course you have to believe the plane will go supersonic with a prop that high...as did Baumgartner without a prop ( went supersonic ).

                      We counted the prop will be good for M8 speed structurally, but the temperatures rose so we hold it back to M5. Then ballistic to upstairs..slowly first and at then at the end levelling with tramendous acceleration.

                      Viscosity, pressure and density are all really low that high enabling supersonic prop flight at 70 km with M4-5.

                      In rocket mode as Star Eagle the craft has wing loading of 33 kg/m2 first and about 10 kg/m2 at the end of the burn..so about 80 times less than the X-15..this is the key aspect here...to go as slow as possible as long as possible to LEO ( to avoid too much heating ).
                      Last edited by topspeed; 9th January 2015, 16:08.
                      If it looks good, it will fly good !
                      -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


                      http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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                      • topspeed
                        Get on uppah !
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2660

                        #12
                        I am a bit skeptic about MARS flying nowadays.

                        Mars does have just 38% of the gravity compared to Earth but the air is equivalent to 30 km on Earth in density.

                        http://www.universetoday.com/14859/gravity-on-mars/

                        So practically anything that is capable to fly on earth at 20-30 km ( FL700-FL1000 ) most likely flies on Mars as long as it not an air breathing system.

                        Several expeditions were being planned to fly on Mars; http://marsairplane.larc.nasa.gov/

                        Q-100 observation aircraft for MARS is my favourite design ( with all it shortcomings and lack of lifting fuselage etc.). It is just cool....and fantastic.
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                        If it looks good, it will fly good !
                        -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


                        http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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                        • 27vet
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 2700

                          #13
                          I would definitely go to Mars if it was affordable and a return trip possible. But probably won't happen this generation.
                          sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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