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  • topspeed
    Get on uppah !
    • Jan 2009
    • 2660

    World lightest real AC ?

    The muscle powered planes can be really lite.

    What is the world lightest "real" combustion engine based ac ?



    Is it Whing Ding II ?

    http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/airc...g-ding-ii.html



    ...or is it Pterodactyl Ascender of 56,7 kilos ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pterodactyl_Ascender



    Neither has closed cockpit and top speed is limited to 55 mph region.

    I am currently wondering if a 50 kilo plane with 100 mph top speed was possible.

    In fact I have 3-views of such ( of my own design ), but not made model of it yet.

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    Reason why there are no more 120-150 lbs planes is possibly the fact that US FAA allows heavier planes to operate without pilot lisence; http://www.usua.org/Rules/faa103.htm
    Last edited by topspeed; 3rd December 2011, 15:38.
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  • topspeed
    Get on uppah !
    • Jan 2009
    • 2660

    #2
    Wheeler Scout 49,4 kg empty !

    This weight could be hard to beat.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skycraft_Scout
    If it looks good, it will fly good !
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    • Distiller
      Talent on Loan from God
      • Oct 2003
      • 4760

      #3
      Paramotors ... propulsion unit ~35kg ... plus chute ~6kg
      "Distiller ... arrogant, ruthless, and by all reports (including his own) utterly charming"

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      • topspeed
        Get on uppah !
        • Jan 2009
        • 2660

        #4
        They are lite...but are they air craft ( AC ) ?

        How lite could a plane with protection for the pilot from rain and birds be ?
        If it looks good, it will fly good !
        -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


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        • Mark A
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Feb 2006
          • 97

          #5
          Well the Cri-cri came in at about 78kg and that's a twin that can fly on one engine.
          Colomban has also designed the Luciole that's not a whole lot heavier and a practical single seater.

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          • topspeed
            Get on uppah !
            • Jan 2009
            • 2660

            #6
            Luciole MC-30 GT

            That has nosewheel and sharply drooped wing tips...I saw a pic somewhere.

            here; http://luciole18.over-blog.com/artic...-85938456.html

            That could be the lightest with cockpit and nosewheel.

            It is generally 97 kg; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colomban_MC-30_Luciole
            Last edited by topspeed; 6th December 2011, 17:16.
            If it looks good, it will fly good !
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            • VeeOne
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Apr 2011
              • 390

              #7
              Originally posted by topspeed View Post
              They are lite...but are they air craft ( AC ) ?

              How lite could a plane with protection for the pilot from rain and birds be ?
              Well paramotors (and paragliders) are technically classed by the CAA as aeroplanes.

              But although I fly them myself it is hard to think of them as 'aeroplanes'. I carry mine in a big bag that probably weighs less than the avionics in a PA28.

              I prefer to think of them as aircraft in the same way a basic microlight is one. To me an aeroplane has a door and instruments, and ailerons and an elevator or stabilator. If it don't have those kittens it isn't an aeroplane to me.

              I learned to fly in the 1970s on Cessnas and Pipers and all these microlite and ultralight aircraft don't 'feel' like real aeroplanes either. But some of them rock!
              Last edited by VeeOne; 11th December 2011, 02:11.

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              • topspeed
                Get on uppah !
                • Jan 2009
                • 2660

                #8
                I agree VeeOne !

                I have flown an aeroplane model succesfully with monowheel/ski without the rudder control..but tricycle landing gear would need a rudder steering too.

                I'll save few kilos when leaving the pedals away on my monowheel design.

                I think also that ac would need to have a feeling that you are protected from the hard slipstream, hails, byrds and possibly engine room slightly warming your hands and feet while flying in a cold weather.
                Last edited by topspeed; 8th December 2011, 09:05.
                If it looks good, it will fly good !
                -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


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                • topspeed
                  Get on uppah !
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2660

                  #9
                  Musculair I was 28 kilos..and flown with father and daughter configuration..with musclepower of course.
                  Garbrick built a 90 lbs plane for his son and he flew it..a teeenager.
                  Airy-Plane is the smallest twin ever by Wilbur Staib.
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                  Last edited by topspeed; 15th December 2011, 18:33.
                  If it looks good, it will fly good !
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                  • topspeed
                    Get on uppah !
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2660

                    #10
                    I think I reached 45 kilos on paper !

                    http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/fo...bs-pilots.html
                    If it looks good, it will fly good !
                    -Bill Lear & Marcel Dassault


                    http://max3fan.blogspot.com/

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