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  • Seawreck
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    • Jun 2010
    • 38

    Can you identify this airplane?

    Dear all,

    I represent an amateur group of scuba divers in Greece.
    By pure chance we ran into a wreck of an aircraft here in Athens in the Saronic gulf.
    As you can imagine this is very intriguing.

    Not being experts in the aviation industry, we cannot as you appreciate, identify what kind of aircraft it is.

    So, in that sense I am attaching a picture of the said aircraft with the hope that someone could give us some hint.

    Thank you.
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  • Seawreck
    Registered User
    • Jun 2010
    • 38

    #2
    Or for what matters, if someone could give me clue on where to look for information or some kind of manufacturer label on the actual plane.

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    • Newforest
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Apr 2005
      • 8887

      #3
      Don't worry, you will have an answer or a selection of answers before the sun sets!
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      • Bmused55
        Aaahh Emu!
        • Oct 2003
        • 11136

        #4
        Looks like a Beech King air to me

        http://www.airliners.net/photo/Beech...ing/1718401/L/

        http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unkno...ing/1708534/L/
        Last edited by Bmused55; 8th June 2010, 16:38.
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        • Al
          Al
          Embittered old curmudgeon
          • Feb 2010
          • 1216

          #5
          No occupants?
          Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups!

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          • Newforest
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Apr 2005
            • 8887

            #6
            Originally posted by Bmused55 View Post
            Looks like a Beech King air to me
            You cannot be serious, can you?

            Sorry, just watching tennis.
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            • 27vet
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Nov 2009
              • 2698

              #7
              I think Sandy is right. The wheel bays look familiar. The King Air undercarriage has a single oleo strut. The nose whel retracts backwards and the main wheels retract forwards as you can see in the Airliners.net pictures. Seawreck, if you could take more pictures of the "underneath", maybe a cabin or cockpit window, might help to positively identify it.
              sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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              • Seawreck
                Registered User
                • Jun 2010
                • 38

                #8
                Thank you all for the feedback. Really appreciate it.
                I do have some more pictures and will upload them tommorow.
                Btw, no skeleton found, so we pressume that he fled!
                Last edited by Seawreck; 8th June 2010, 19:44.

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                • Seawreck
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 38

                  #9
                  Lads, this one is from the cockpit area. Unfo the fuse is upside down.

                  Hope that whis one will help.

                  This weekend we will go again to the wreck in order to take closer pics.
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                  • mike currill
                    Big pistons rule
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 8791

                    #10
                    I don't think it is a King Air. Twin mains on them.
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                    • Kenneth
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Jan 2000
                      • 969

                      #11
                      I don't think it is a King Air. Twin mains on them.
                      The C90 has single main wheel assemblies; cf. bmused links above...

                      Or for what matters, if someone could give me clue on where to look for information or some kind of manufacturer label on the actual plane
                      Think it's on the rear fuselage in the vicinity of the horizontal stabilizer and that part seems to be missing...
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                      • Seawreck
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 38

                        #12
                        Few more details regarding this aircraft.

                        It has no piant. Parts which are not covered by underwater life still have the silver coating of alu.

                        Parts from Bendix Co where found around the wreck....so that means that its an aircraft from an american manufacturer.

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                        • malcom
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 67

                          #13
                          Aztec? Would have a steel tube fuselage under the skin if so - did you notice?

                          (any small round holes?)

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                          • Seawreck
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 38

                            #14
                            Small round holes yes, but I think this is irelevant.

                            No its not a Piper Aztec. For sure it has two turboprop engines, and cockpit capsule.

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                            • Seawreck
                              Registered User
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 38

                              #15
                              I bet that the orginal shape of the cockpit should be like this...
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                              • Bmused55
                                Aaahh Emu!
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 11136

                                #16
                                I'm certain it's a King Air.

                                Look at the angles of the inside wing leading edge, then the angle of the outer wing leading edge, then compare those to the King Air C90 pictured here:
                                http://www.airliners.net/photo/Beech...ing/1718401/L/

                                Identical design. The position of the gear, the shape of the nose and the length of the engine nacelles all match. You can even make out the squared off fuselage.
                                I cannot find an picture of the underside of a C90, which appears to differ slightly from the C90A. But the general design is the same.
                                Last edited by Bmused55; 9th June 2010, 14:29.
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                                • 27vet
                                  Rank 5 Registered User
                                  • Nov 2009
                                  • 2698

                                  #17
                                  I agree with Sandy. I flew a 90 years ago. If you can see the control yoke it should have "Beechcraft" on it. The newer 90s had Bendix radar, the radios were often King.
                                  sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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                                  • EGTC
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Jan 2009
                                    • 2835

                                    #18
                                    I think its a King Air also.
                                    Y.N.W.A

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                                    • Seawreck
                                      Registered User
                                      • Jun 2010
                                      • 38

                                      #19
                                      Lads,

                                      Can you please focus on the cockpit photo? I agree that the majority fits for a Beechcraft.

                                      BUT.....pay attention on the fact that there are no doors for the wheels as well as the cockpit seems to be a capsule.

                                      I couldnt find any Beechcraft with that kind of features.

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                                      • TEEJ
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 2354

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Seawreck View Post
                                        Lads,

                                        Can you please focus on the cockpit photo? I agree that the majority fits for a Beechcraft.

                                        BUT.....pay attention on the fact that there are no doors for the wheels as well as the cockpit seems to be a capsule.

                                        I couldnt find any Beechcraft with that kind of features.
                                        I agree with those who have identified it as a King Air. Depending on the age of the wreck it could also be a Beechcraft 99.

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Model_99

                                        There is obviously extensive damage to the fuselage. The undercarriage doors are simply missing. Possibly ripped off in the crash?

                                        The image that you are saying is a cockpit shot does not show the cockpit. This is simply the bottom half of the nose section. The cockpit area and cockpit windscreen is located further back behind the location of the retracted position of the nose wheel undercarriage.

                                        See cutaway drawing

                                        http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace...ir-cutaway.jpg

                                        http://www.airliners.net/photo/Beech...ing/1631493/L/

                                        http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untit...ing/1549610/L/

                                        TJ
                                        Last edited by TEEJ; 10th June 2010, 02:33.

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