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By: - 2nd May 2009 at 09:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
It's disgusting when you get people doing that on board. I haven't experienced that before in my life nor do i wish to, but it's as bad when people come on board either drunk or going to get on the flight too. :mad: :mad:
By: - 2nd May 2009 at 11:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I'm not really sure about the pilot's response - I'd be interested to hear what some of the professionals on here think...
It seems a bit extreme to concern your passengers when it is only one foolish passenger who has broken the rules
By: - 2nd May 2009 at 11:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I've been on two flights when his has happened, either to or from Ibiza and Zante
On both occasions, the pilot also gave a pretty grim overview of why it's banned. One one occasion the captain said that the crew had informed him that they didn't know who did it, but if he found out he would see to it that they were banned from the airline so they wouldnt be flying home with them, and prosecuted
I don't get how people can be so senseless.
By: - 2nd May 2009 at 11:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I was flying FRA-DUB with EI one night and a passenger was caught smoking, needless to say the Gardai were waiting when we landed in DUB.
By: - 2nd May 2009 at 13:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yep, some people just have to break the rules. Sod the comfort and safety of others around them, because they are too stupid to realise what there actions may lead too. Obviously no respect for himself or any of his family who may have been onboard.
By: - 2nd May 2009 at 15:39 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
When i was flying over the pond between 1994 and 2005 and can say that 80 % of the time one idiot or more would go for a smoke in the toilet. The crew get so sick of these idiots to the point of pulling your hair out. The pilots response was pretty normal in my experience. You need to stop these people doing this and if the other pax know what grave danger they are being put in they can help or at least warn the crew to prevent it. For what it's worth my former company had a zero tolerence on this matter. If you did it you were arrested at ther other end and carraige was refused home if it took place on the outbound sector. :mad:
By: - 12th May 2009 at 09:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
SMOKIN' ORIGINS
I worked on the aircraft in the main hanger block at LHR for BEA 1961 to 1972 - then, when flying, you could smoke anywhere on the kites - because the smoke recirculated in the air con, anyone who did not smoke had no choice but to join in.. So the seating was split into smoking and non smoking sections and the aircon split accordingly. Two cost benefits emerged, where you were not self insuring, insurance premiums went down, but also the aircon filters at the front non smoking end, did not need changing anywhere near the previous schedule, saving on labour and material costs.
Subsequently as society became more anti smoking, and also the smoking sections on the kites were getting to be a block of fumes, a total smoking ban came into being. By this time the smoke was also affecting seats and cabin fittings, wall and ceiling panels were needing to be removed and chemically cleaned during a major maintenance - so more cost savings appeared and no more frequent aircon filter changes. Then it was realised that the aircon could now run with less heating etc., saving fuel.
This is now a winner. The fire risk is of course less, but as all the fabrics, plastics, etc.. used are non-flammable or flame retardent, it is not seen as a major problem. There is potentially more danger from idiots using mobile phones and laptops during takeoff and landing, screwing up part of the electronics or landing system - if you don't believe me, check out some of the specialist EMC/EMI journels as to what can happen. You can fire missiles by accident with an errant pulse! - there went the neighbourhood!!
Cheers Brian:D
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By: Rickt - 1st May 2009 at 23:24
Hi,
Just returned from Monetgo Bay with TOM on one of their EX-FCA 767-3 and thought i would share this with you.......
On the outbound flight (TOM101), around 60 minutes into the flight 9hr flight as we had just passed the west coast of Ireland and above the Atlantic, a PAX decided it was a perfect time for him to go for a smoke in the rear toilets!!!!!
We were sat in row 23 and could smell it straight away as the PAX walked back past us, the PAX was in around row 20..
To cut a long story short, most of the cabin crew went around him demanding to know WHERE he had placed his "fag end" while the rest of crew where searching in the toliets, the PAX's response as to were the "fag end" was him just shugging his shoulders saying, "dunno"... leave me alone".... "dunno".... "dunno"...
Around 10 minutes later, the pilot came onto the PA system explaining the servitiy of smoking in toilets providing an example of when you was allowed to smoke in the 70's/80's, you were still not allowed to smoke in the toilets due to all the risks invloved...
The pilot put out a real strong example of what would happen "using your imagination" if we had a fire over the Atlantic and had to ditch...
The whole episode shook up some PAX's on the charter service, full of family's going on holiday...
On a positive note.. every signal PAX on the flight monitored the guys movements for the next 8 hours and cabin crew inspected the toilets the second after he used them on the flight.
How many other people have been on a flight were this happened??
Im hoping this guy gets fined big time when he returns to the UK as nothing happened when he landed @ MBJ.
Just thought i would share this with you.
Rick