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  • adamdowley
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    • Jul 2003
    • 1399

    B767/A330 and charter airlines

    hi all,

    Ive got a bit of coursework in which i need to examine certification requirements (the certification that allows the airline to fly certain routes) and maintenance principals of two aircraft types, based around a charter airline.

    The Boeing 767 and A330 tend to be fairly popular with charter airlines. Put simply, why?


    any help would be great!

    thanks
    Last edited by adamdowley; 4th March 2006, 11:14.
  • lukeylad
    G.A.P Geordie and proud!!
    • Nov 2005
    • 2575

    #2
    well according to my research for collage the charter airlines use em because they offer good range, high seating capacity when they are in there largest configuration and they offer low running costs what course u doing

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    • adamdowley
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Jul 2003
      • 1399

      #3
      thanks for the info. i'm doing Air Transport Management at Loughborough University.

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      • lukeylad
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        • Nov 2005
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        #4
        no problem mate im doing airline and airport ops at newcastle collage

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        • A330-300
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          • Dec 2005
          • 1676

          #5
          Originally posted by lukeylad
          no problem mate im doing airline and airport ops at newcastle collage
          Is it BTEC National? That's what I'm doing as well.
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          • lukeylad
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            • Nov 2005
            • 2575

            #6
            Originally posted by A330-300
            Is it BTEC National? That's what I'm doing as well.
            yeah it is mate where u studying at

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            • A330-300
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              • Dec 2005
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              #7
              I'm at a college based at LBA.
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              • lukeylad
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                • Nov 2005
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                #8
                Originally posted by A330-300
                I'm at a college based at LBA.
                cool we were supposed to going to LBA last year to see the airport but the day before we went LBA phoned up to say that due to securtiy issues they couldn't accept us!! so we went to castleford and got drunk hehe been to MAN this year which year u in

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                • A330-300
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                  • Dec 2005
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                  #9
                  First year.

                  We haven't been on ANY trips, even though we were told we would! Travesty...
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                  • lukeylad
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                    • Nov 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by A330-300
                    First year.

                    We haven't been on ANY trips, even though we were told we would! Travesty...
                    hehe i know mate were off to dublin later this year just trying to aviod ryanair at all costs

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                    • A330-300
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                      • Dec 2005
                      • 1676

                      #11
                      The only places we've been to is a team building event. Other than that, nothing unless you count the various trips around LBA which is nothing interesting.
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                      • lukeylad
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                        • Nov 2005
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                        #12
                        true mate weve been to ncl loads of times even though its my local u get board of it MAN was something else though huge airport saw my first 747 was well chuffed

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                        • Grey Area
                          Punter
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 12157

                          #13
                          Ahem...... is this a private conversation, or can anyone join in?

                          Drifting off-topic a bit, chaps.

                          GA
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                          • MANAIRPORTMAD!!
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                            • May 2004
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lukeylad
                            true mate weve been to ncl loads of times even though its my local u get board of it MAN was something else though huge airport saw my first 747 was well chuffed
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                            • adamdowley
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1399

                              #15
                              i know that the two types require (and have) ETOPS-180 certification to allow them to do transatlantic flights (and that a specific operator needs to gain ETOPS certification), but what other certification would be required by an airline to operate long range flights from Europe to the US for example?


                              thanks

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                              • lukeylad
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                                • Nov 2005
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                                #16
                                note taken sorry

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                                • lukeylad
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                                  • Nov 2005
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by adamdowley
                                  i know that the two types require (and have) ETOPS-180 certification to allow them to do transatlantic flights (and that a specific operator needs to gain ETOPS certification), but what other certification would be required by an airline to operate long range flights from Europe to the US for example?


                                  thanks
                                  thats beyond me there mate

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                                  • Hugh Jarse
                                    Senior Member
                                    • Feb 2005
                                    • 193

                                    #18
                                    The 767 is particularly popular due to it having cross qualification with the 757 meaning that with one set of crews the airline can crew both long and short haul flights. A lot more efficient than employing crew qualified solely for the one type and adds flexibility too.

                                    Initial certification is done when an operator decides they want to operate the aircraft. For a long time the NZCAA didn't recognise the 757. Particular configurations may not be certified with the general type for example a 767 with only a speed tape and standby ASI (no conventional ASI) is not automatically certified by the CAA until flight crew training requirements are shown to prove the crews are trained to cope with the difference.

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                                    • adamdowley
                                      Rank 5 Registered User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 1399

                                      #19
                                      thanks for the info Hugh!

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                                      • wysiwyg
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                                        • Jan 2000
                                        • 3749

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Hugh Jarse
                                        The 767 is particularly popular due to it having cross qualification with the 757 meaning that with one set of crews the airline can crew both long and short haul flights. A lot more efficient than employing crew qualified solely for the one type and adds flexibility too...
                                        Very true but the same can be said for the A330 with the A320 family as used by several UK charter carriers.

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