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By: - 4th October 2005 at 15:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oopps, must remember the checklist next time...
dme
By: - 4th October 2005 at 16:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
In a Homer Simpson styleee..... 'DOH!!!'
By: - 4th October 2005 at 16:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oopps, must remember the checklist next time...dme
No checklist would have prevented this as setting the parking brake in flight is non-standard.
By: - 4th October 2005 at 16:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Woah, they did a number on that wheel...
By: - 4th October 2005 at 16:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
When did that happen?
By: - 4th October 2005 at 16:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I was able to find out that this happened in IAH fairly recently.
By: - 4th October 2005 at 18:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is some info here, but don't know if there is any truth in it. Also has some pics of the damage.
By: - 4th October 2005 at 19:01 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
All this is a result of trying to fool the ACARS? Man, they've got to feel stupid now.
By: - 4th October 2005 at 19:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
bang.bang,grind.............
how much damage would that cause to a runway?
By: - 4th October 2005 at 19:50 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
bang.bang,grind.............
how much damage would that cause to a runway?
Not as much damage as a 747 with the parking break on, but will probably need resurfacing as it will cause ruts.
By: - 4th October 2005 at 20:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No checklist would have prevented this as setting the parking brake in flight is non-standard.
Oh right. I was just thinking of BUMF, really just the B part. Do airlines not use this?
dme
By: - 4th October 2005 at 21:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
So the parking brake is pretty good then...
By: - 4th October 2005 at 23:49 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There is some info here, but don't know if there is any truth in it. Also has some pics of the damage.
Looking at those pictures again they show an Airbus not an Embraer. It seems that USAirways has had a history of landing with the brakes on.
By: - 5th October 2005 at 01:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I would assume an Anti Skid Failure. On most large jets you set the parking brake by applying the brakes and pulling the parking brake knob. With the gear up and stowed, and the gear handle in neutral, there would be no hydraulic power to the brakes and the parking brake could not be set.
By: - 5th October 2005 at 02:18 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
At least on the Embraer's it's possible to set the brake in flight and yes, you will land with the brakes locked. We had someone try this on an E145 and ended up doing donuts down the runway until the tires blew. Not the sharpest tack in the box he was.
By: - 5th October 2005 at 03:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Whisley Delta,
Sometimes you have to assume that the flight crew know what they are doing.
By: - 5th October 2005 at 04:08 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You know what they say when you assume....
By: - 5th October 2005 at 04:19 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes I know!
By: - 5th October 2005 at 04:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
You know what they say when you assume....
One would assume that the two bodies in the pointy end are highly trained professionals working for a reputable airline, trained so highly that two of them couldn't make the same stupid mistake
By: - 5th October 2005 at 06:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
For every assumption folks have about pilots there is some pilot making some assumptions about his performance, conditions, capability, etc...
Unfortunately human factors can easily undo decades of education, training and experience.
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By: Whiskey Delta - 4th October 2005 at 15:29 - Edited 2nd October 2019 at 11:40
I don't know any of the information behind these pictures other than it appears a MidAtlantic Airlines E170 crew landed with the parking brake set. Oops.