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By: - 15th April 2005 at 15:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
An American airline with an all Airbus fleet? I like it. :)
As JetBlue is ..... so far.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 15:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
and USA 3000.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 15:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Back in the 80's Eastern was the first US airline to get 3 or 4 A300's .
It was just a loan and Eastern placed an order later since they liked the bird.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 15:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
An American airline with an all Airbus fleet? I like it. :)Let it be one of many ;)
By: - 15th April 2005 at 15:59 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
An American airline with an all Airbus fleet? I like it. :)Just as there are Euro airlines with all Boeing fleets. ;)
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I really feel France should have an all-Airbus fleet...France, as in the country, or as in the airline? If you're talking about Air France, they surely wouldn't dump their 744's, 744ERF's, 772, and 773ER's, not to mention their sizeable 737 fleet!
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
France, as in the country, or as in the airline? If you're talking about Air France, they surely wouldn't dump their 744's, 744ERF's, 772, and 773ER's, not to mention their sizeable 737 fleet!
I dont think they will. They just placed a 777 order .... ;)
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Well they just use the types which fit their needs I guess.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Why? Aren't they faithful to Airbus?!Not 100% faithful, as they operate a sizeable Boeing flleet, to go with having operating every airbus type to date.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not 100% faithful, as they operate a sizeable Boeing flleet, to go with having operating every airbus type to date.
Actually they inheritated this fleet from Aeropostale ..... when they acquired this Postal airline.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
They acquired the Airbuses from Aeropostal?
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, the sizeable 737's
By: - 15th April 2005 at 16:45 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No, the sizeable 737'sOh, ok. Either way, they still operate, or have operated a number of Boeings. I neglected to mention the 767's they also operated. Did they ever operate the 727 or 757?
By: - 15th April 2005 at 17:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Oh, ok. Either way, they still operate, or have operated a number of Boeings. I neglected to mention the 767's they also operated. Did they ever operate the 727 or 757?
No the 727's have been phased out when the A320 went into service.
AFAIK AF never operated any 757
The 767's are gone
By: - 15th April 2005 at 17:26 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Although it's good to support one's own industry there is nothing wrong with airlines, even flagship carrier ones, buying a/c from other countries. This has never been a problem in Europe, with many airlines having an all-Boeing or manily-Boeing fleet, but there used to be a rather different (and a bit moronic if you ask me) position in America regarding ownership of non-American a/c.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 17:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
There used to be more than one US airliner manufacturer, too.......;)
By: - 15th April 2005 at 17:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Although it's good to support one's own industry there is nothing wrong with airlines, even flagship carrier ones, buying a/c from other countries. This has never been a problem in Europe, with many airlines having an all-Boeing or manily-Boeing fleet, but there used to be a rather different (and a bit moronic if you ask me) position in America regarding ownership of non-American a/c.Well, United, Northwest, and America West both operate sizeable Airbus fleets at the moment, along with the 2 aforementioned airlines. When was this 'moronic' position evident?
By: - 15th April 2005 at 17:51 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps it's no so much the airlines (which at the end of the day should want the most adequate product for their businesses) as some of the passengers themselves. Judging by comments seen and heard on internet boards out there, the "if it ain't Boeing I'm not going" brigade is alive and well. People who claim they will not fly on an European-made a/c, only American ones. That has to have had an effect when it comes to consider a purchase.
By: - 15th April 2005 at 18:07 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Perhaps it's no so much the airlines (which at the end of the day should want the most adequate product for their businesses) as some of the passengers themselves. Judging by comments seen and heard on internet boards out there, the "if it ain't Boeing I'm not going" brigade is alive and well. People who claim they will not fly on an European-made a/c, only American ones. That has to have had an effect when it comes to consider a purchase.Well said.
No the 727's have been phased out when the A320 went into service.Thanks for that Hand. I was actually aware that the '67's were gone, and was well aware that they didn't currently operate the '27. I was just wondering if they had operated the 3-holer in the past, and you cleared that up.
AFAIK AF never operated any 757
The 767's are gone
By: - 15th April 2005 at 18:42 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Not to many US carriers only operate US manufactured aircraft. Continental is pure Boeing now that they've retired their MD-80's. They went all US back in the 1980's when they ditched their A300's which I believe the aquired from Eastern. Obviously the old CEO, Gordon Bethune, who had come from Boeing had some personal interest in being an all Boeing fleet. I guess if you want to get picky, Continental isn't all Boeing as they own the leases to our 249 EMB-135/145 jets, they just don't operate them since we've become a seperate company.
Southwest Airlines is pure Boeing and Delta has an all US manufactured fleet since they ditched their A310's about 10 years ago. Delta is very heavy on the MD side though with their huge MD-80 fleet. Alaskan is also all US but also have a number of MD-80's.
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By: steve rowell - 15th April 2005 at 07:53
With its first flight this week, Frontier Airlines' fleet of 44 aircraft is officially "all-Airbus." However, today's watershed announcement was not an overnight process. Frontier began the transition from a Boeing fleet of 737-300 and 737-200 aircraft when it announced on October 19, 1999 that it had signed a Letter of Intent (LOI) to purchase 11 new Airbus aircraft, with options for an additional nine. On November 4, 1999, Frontier further cemented its decision to transform its fleet to a single aircraft type when it announced it had signed an LOI for an additional 15 leased A319 aircraft. Finally, on August 21, 2003, the airline announced its largest order to date -- 29 A319 and A318 aircraft. The airline received its first Airbus A319 in June 2001 and when all orders are completed in 2008, Frontier's fleet will consist of 62 Airbus A319 and A318 aircraft
Today's announcement has both financial and consumer implications for the airline. In addition to the fuel efficiency of the A319 and A318, Frontier estimates that the cost-savings produced by a single fleet-type, primarily derived from maintenance and training savings, should result in approximately $11 million on an annual basis. In addition, with the retirement of Frontier's final Boeing 737-300, Frontier's average fleet age will be under two years, one of the youngest in the industry. All of Frontier's Airbus aircraft offer 33 inches of legroom in every seat, along with 24 channels of live DirecTV programming, and three pay-per-view movie selections in every seat back.