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  • hampden98
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Sep 2009
    • 2508

    Plane stowaway, how long will it be...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33196210

    ...before one is carrying a bomb.
    A bomb in the U/C during take off must be the worst of worst case scenarios.
    Kind of puts airport security to mockery.
  • TomcatViP
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Nov 2011
    • 5911

    #2
    The local vicar will offer prayers for both men in a service at a nearby church tonight.
    People's thoughts are very much with the two men who desperately tried to find a better life, but whose dangerous journey ended in tragedy.
    It had to be underlined. A compassionate thought also for the ppl of Richmond.

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    • TonyT
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Oct 2006
      • 8933

      #3
      Hampden, there are a lot worse scenarios.

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      • hampden98
        Rank 5 Registered User
        • Sep 2009
        • 2508

        #4
        Originally posted by TonyT View Post
        Hampden, there are a lot worse scenarios.
        Maybe, but none which seem to circumvent all security measures so easily.

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        • skyskooter
          Rank 5 Registered User
          • Oct 2012
          • 398

          #5
          How do they do it I wonder? I can scarcely believe they get into a maintenance area, stow away in the wheel well with their sandwiches and wait. I have a vision of Arnold Schwarzeneger in the film Commando running out to the aircraft as it taxies for take off, leaping on the main undercarriage leg and climbing up into the wheel well. Any thoughts?

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          • TonyT
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Oct 2006
            • 8933

            #6
            You would be surprised, but I am not going to post anything on the web that would show any of the many failings there are.

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            • TomcatViP
              Rank 5 Registered User
              • Nov 2011
              • 5911

              #7
              Would you be able to show us in which direction to make some quick research?

              Thank you

              By the way the BBC article stated:

              The victim was found on the roof of notonthehighstreet.com's headquarters on Kew Road, Richmond,
              I had in mind that it was near Richmond/ Richmond Park with its beautiful classical architecture and river front.
              Last edited by TomcatViP; 21st June 2015, 20:58.

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              • Paul F
                Retired Lawnmower Racer
                • May 2005
                • 1104

                #8
                Originally posted by skyskooter View Post
                How do they do it I wonder?
                Skyskooter, if "external airport security" is as variable as the efficiency and diligence of security checks within the terminals, then anything is possible. A few years ago I was passing through the departure checks at a major international airport serving a major Asian city, and had completely forgotten the two, full, 75cl bottles of drinking water that I had placed in my hand baggage that morning (as I left my hotel).

                My bag passed through the scanner and no-one spotted the bottles, or if they did they ignored them, even though queueing passengers were being asked to discard bottles of water they had in their hands before passing through the checks. I only remembered the bottles were in my bag when I later opened it in the departure lounge.

                I have also had a forgotten Swiss army knife (long buried at the bottom of my rucksack pocket) removed/confiscated at a Channel Island airport when passing through security on my return to mainland UK, yet I had taken the same bag (with same forgotten penknife) through a major London airport security check on my outbound journey that very same morning...

                If security is that variable for legitimate travellers inside terminals, I hate to think how variable external security of airport perimeters may be...

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                • Bombgone
                  Rank 5 Registered User
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 391

                  #9
                  Stowaways in undercarriage bays seem to be all to common these days. Has anyone ever survived? I supposed they must wait till dark when the aircraft leaves the terminal and board somewhere along the taxi way. They must know the freezing conditions and lack of oxygen at 30 thousand plus feet.
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                  • ~Alan~
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5012

                    #10
                    The end of Dr Strangelove comes to mind.
                    Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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                    • charliehunt
                      Nearly there!
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 11459

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bombgone View Post
                      Stowaways in undercarriage bays seem to be all to common these days. Has anyone ever survived? I supposed they must wait till dark when the aircraft leaves the terminal and board somewhere along the taxi way. They must know the freezing conditions and lack of oxygen at 30 thousand plus feet.
                      Which only goes to show just how desperate they are.
                      Charlie

                      Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                      • ~Alan~
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5012

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bombgone View Post
                        They must know the freezing conditions and lack of oxygen at 30 thousand plus feet.
                        Probably not.
                        Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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