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By: - 28th December 2014 at 04:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: - 28th December 2014 at 05:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: - 28th December 2014 at 10:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Bad weather brought QZ8501 down?
More than 9 hours after losing contact with the AirAsia Indonesia Flight QZ8501 en route to Singapore from Indonesia, search operations coordinated by Indonesia continues in the Java Sea.
http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2014/12/bad-weather-brought-qz8501-down.html
By: - 28th December 2014 at 11:15 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Typically misleading and totally speculative headline!!:(
By: - 28th December 2014 at 12:02 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
No worse than any of the TV news bulletins. They are just putting the weather forward as a possible cause.
Until the cause is found, people can only speculate. Whether it be in public or in private.
By: - 28th December 2014 at 14:32 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Yes quite so - but there is no
necessity to say anything and certainly nothing which adds anything to the reports we have all read about the weather conditions.
By: - 28th December 2014 at 15:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Charlie,
It's in the nature of people to speculate. There is little wrong with that. That is one of the reasons why we have a busy, active and interesting forum.
By: - 28th December 2014 at 15:46 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I partially agree although in general I find speculation in posts which appear here following accidents unhelpful and serving little constructive purpose.
In this specific case you or I could have made the same observation from the news reports of the prevailing weather. Informed speculation from those with knowledge and experience can be of interest, however.
By: - 28th December 2014 at 16:16 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Search suspended for night time.
By: - 28th December 2014 at 19:41 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Flight QZ8501 incident - Point of interests:
- The aircraft was exiting a surveyed airspace and close to enter another one
- The disappearance occurred less than one hour after TakeOff
- bad weather at alt resulted in the pilots to request climbing higher from 32 to 38kft due to weather (warm air)
- The plane had been flying the same route often before
- The request to climb was an unusual event.
- The pilots radio communicated just before the climb and then went silence
- The plane is owned 49% (sharing) by Malaysian capital group
- A French national was in the cockpit as the copilot (ex-Total employee)
- Plane destination was Singapore (from Indonesia's Surabaya)
- The plane had a deep maintenance approximately one month ago
- Company records are excellent
Source:
www.reuters.com
www.franceinfo.fr
As I have written before, a strong candidate for the cascade of events is a non OEM components swapped during maintenance that contains a non adapted battery.
By: - 28th December 2014 at 20:28 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
At the end of the day its a discussion forum and thats the whole point of us all finding ourselves on here.
By: - 29th December 2014 at 09:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Mods please consider merging this thread with http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?133249-AirAsia-Airbus-A320-gone-missing which is on the same topic.
Thanks
By: - 29th December 2014 at 09:23 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Mods please consider merging this thread with http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?133250-Bad-weather-brought-QZ8501-down as they are on the same topic.
Thanks
By: - 30th December 2014 at 04:24 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Attach is the search area and assets that are part of search operation so far. For the third days (today), they already enlarge the search area to 13 zone including inland Kalimantan (Indonesian Borneo).
From detik on line, sorry in Indonesian. Basically the Indonesian AF spot wreckage which some of them like plane undercarriage. Further identification being conducted by SAR nd Naval team that presently move to the spot.
By: - 30th December 2014 at 06:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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A search aircraft has spotted debris 105 miles (169km) off Pangkalanbun, and they now sending a chopper for a clearer look, according to reports."These look like items that are not usually seen on sea surface," MetroTV cited Mr Dwi Putranto as saying.
The aircraft was flying 500 feet (152.4m) above sea level. A chopper would allow the team to get a better look.
Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled. [???!!??? - Edit from Myself]The plane, whose engines were made by CFM International, co-owned by General Electric and Safran of France, lacked real-time engine diagnostics or monitoring, a GE spokesman said. Such systems are mainly used on long-haul flights and can provide clues to airlines and investigators when things go wrong.
Source:
http://www.straitstimes.com/
www.reuters.com
From AFP/Reuters
By: - 30th December 2014 at 06:55 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Image: Possible AirAsia debris spotted
As the search entered the third day, possible debris of the missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501 has been spotted near the last reported location of flight.
http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2014/12/airasia-qz8501-debris-spotted.html
By: - 30th December 2014 at 08:00 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Indonesian SAR agency Chief has confirmed the suspected debris/wreckage comes from AirAsia QZ8501. They also have found bodies.
By: - 30th December 2014 at 09:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
They are reporting 40 recovered. Desperately sad.
By: - 30th December 2014 at 18:29 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Referring to post #5, we have this discussion every time there is an air crash.
I agree, Mr Green. Speculation is what a forum like this is all about. I find the speculation on here very measured, well-informed and well-intended and one of the reasons I keep coming is to participate in it. I hope that doesn't make me sound like a ghoulish nosey person but more a concerned aviation enthusiast.
It is very possible that weather brought down the aircraft. At least the flight recorders will be retrieved in this case and a definite cause will be found, giving a sense of eventual closure to the families.
By: - 31st December 2014 at 04:36 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Sonar detects wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 on sea floor
Indonesian searchers say sonar equipment has detected wreckage from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 at the bottom of the sea, a day after the first signs of debris were spotted.
It's still unclear whether the aircraft is in one piece of broken up, said Hernato, a search and rescue official who goes by one name.
Source:
cnn.com
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By: Sainul abid - 28th December 2014 at 04:18
An AirAsia Airbus 320-200 airplane carrying 162 passengers and crew from Indonesia to Singapore has gone missing on Sunday morning.
http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2014/12/airasia-airbus-a320-gone-missing.html