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  • Sainul abid
    Rank 3 Registered User
    • Mar 2014
    • 57

    AirAsia Airbus A320 gone missing

    An AirAsia Airbus 320-200 airplane carrying 162 passengers and crew from Indonesia to Singapore has gone missing on Sunday morning.
    http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2014...e-missing.html
  • Flying-A
    Rank 5 Registered User
    • Oct 2007
    • 461

    #2
    Some more information:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/12...-media-report/

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    • djcross
      Rank 5 Registered User
      • Jan 2000
      • 5394

      #3

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      • Sainul abid
        Rank 3 Registered User
        • Mar 2014
        • 57

        #4
        Bad weather brought QZ8501 down?

        More than 9 hours after losing contact with the AirAsia Indonesia Flight QZ8501 en route to Singapore from Indonesia, search operations coordinated by Indonesia continues in the Java Sea.
        http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2014...8501-down.html

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        • charliehunt
          Nearly there!
          • Oct 2012
          • 11459

          #5
          Typically misleading and totally speculative headline!!
          Charlie

          Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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          • ~Alan~
            Rank 5 Registered User
            • Mar 2010
            • 5012

            #6
            No worse than any of the TV news bulletins. They are just putting the weather forward as a possible cause.
            Until the cause is found, people can only speculate. Whether it be in public or in private.
            Last edited by Deano; 2nd January 2015, 14:30. Reason: COC RULE 14
            Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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            • charliehunt
              Nearly there!
              • Oct 2012
              • 11459

              #7
              Yes quite so - but there is no
              necessity to say anything and certainly nothing which adds anything to the reports we have all read about the weather conditions.
              Charlie

              Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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              • John Green
                Rank 5 Registered User
                • Mar 2011
                • 6643

                #8
                Charlie,

                It's in the nature of people to speculate. There is little wrong with that. That is one of the reasons why we have a busy, active and interesting forum.

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                • charliehunt
                  Nearly there!
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 11459

                  #9
                  I partially agree although in general I find speculation in posts which appear here following accidents unhelpful and serving little constructive purpose.

                  In this specific case you or I could have made the same observation from the news reports of the prevailing weather. Informed speculation from those with knowledge and experience can be of interest, however.
                  Charlie

                  Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                  • Newforest
                    Rank 5 Registered User
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 8852

                    #10
                    http://www.aol.com/article/2014/12/2...6pLid%3D589907

                    Search suspended for night time.
                    http://www.flightmemory.com/ I have been round the world 11.83 times!

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                    • TomcatViP
                      Rank 5 Registered User
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 5912

                      #11
                      Flight QZ8501 incident - Point of interests:

                      - The aircraft was exiting a surveyed airspace and close to enter another one
                      - The disappearance occurred less than one hour after TakeOff
                      - bad weather at alt resulted in the pilots to request climbing higher from 32 to 38kft due to weather (warm air)
                      - The plane had been flying the same route often before
                      - The request to climb was an unusual event.
                      - The pilots radio communicated just before the climb and then went silence
                      - The plane is owned 49% (sharing) by Malaysian capital group
                      - A French national was in the cockpit as the copilot (ex-Total employee)
                      - Plane destination was Singapore (from Indonesia's Surabaya)
                      - The plane had a deep maintenance approximately one month ago
                      - Company records are excellent



                      Source:
                      www.reuters.com
                      www.franceinfo.fr



                      As I have written before, a strong candidate for the cascade of events is a non OEM components swapped during maintenance that contains a non adapted battery.
                      Last edited by TomcatViP; 16th January 2015, 05:19.

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                      • Runway06
                        Rank 5 Registered User
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 619

                        #12
                        At the end of the day its a discussion forum and thats the whole point of us all finding ourselves on here.

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                        • nJayM
                          Rank 5 Registered User
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1687

                          #13
                          Mods please consider merging this thread with http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...0-gone-missing which is on the same topic.
                          Thanks
                          Jay

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                          • nJayM
                            Rank 5 Registered User
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 1687

                            #14
                            Mods please consider merging this thread with http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...ht-QZ8501-down as they are on the same topic.
                            Thanks
                            Jay

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                            • ananda
                              Rank 5 Registered User
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 515

                              #15
                              Attach is the search area and assets that are part of search operation so far. For the third days (today), they already enlarge the search area to 13 zone including inland Kalimantan (Indonesian Borneo).

                              Just in:
                              http://m.detik.com/news/read/2014/12...luncur-pesawat

                              From detik on line, sorry in Indonesian. Basically the Indonesian AF spot wreckage which some of them like plane undercarriage. Further identification being conducted by SAR nd Naval team that presently move to the spot.
                              Attached Files
                              Last edited by ananda; 30th December 2014, 06:16.

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                              • TomcatViP
                                Rank 5 Registered User
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 5912

                                #16
                                Have a look here

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                                A search aircraft has spotted debris 105 miles (169km) off Pangkalanbun, and they now sending a chopper for a clearer look, according to reports.

                                "These look like items that are not usually seen on sea surface," MetroTV cited Mr Dwi Putranto as saying.

                                The aircraft was flying 500 feet (152.4m) above sea level. A chopper would allow the team to get a better look.

                                Online discussion among pilots has centered on unconfirmed secondary radar data from Malaysia that suggested the aircraft was climbing at a speed of 353 knots, about 100 knots too slow, and that it might have stalled. [???!!??? - Edit from Myself]

                                The plane, whose engines were made by CFM International, co-owned by General Electric and Safran of France, lacked real-time engine diagnostics or monitoring, a GE spokesman said. Such systems are mainly used on long-haul flights and can provide clues to airlines and investigators when things go wrong.
                                Source:
                                http://www.straitstimes.com/
                                www.reuters.com


                                From AFP/Reuters
                                Last edited by TomcatViP; 30th December 2014, 06:43.

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                                • Sainul abid
                                  Rank 3 Registered User
                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 57

                                  #17
                                  Image: Possible AirAsia debris spotted

                                  As the search entered the third day, possible debris of the missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501 has been spotted near the last reported location of flight.
                                  http://www.aviationanalysis.net/2014...s-spotted.html

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                                  • ananda
                                    Rank 5 Registered User
                                    • Oct 2010
                                    • 515

                                    #18
                                    Indonesian SAR agency Chief has confirmed the suspected debris/wreckage comes from AirAsia QZ8501. They also have found bodies.

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                                    • charliehunt
                                      Nearly there!
                                      • Oct 2012
                                      • 11459

                                      #19
                                      They are reporting 40 recovered. Desperately sad.
                                      Charlie

                                      Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                                      • mrtotty
                                        Rank 5 Registered User
                                        • Mar 2008
                                        • 1054

                                        #20
                                        Referring to post #5, we have this discussion every time there is an air crash.

                                        I agree, Mr Green. Speculation is what a forum like this is all about. I find the speculation on here very measured, well-informed and well-intended and one of the reasons I keep coming is to participate in it. I hope that doesn't make me sound like a ghoulish nosey person but more a concerned aviation enthusiast.

                                        It is very possible that weather brought down the aircraft. At least the flight recorders will be retrieved in this case and a definite cause will be found, giving a sense of eventual closure to the families.
                                        Last edited by mrtotty; 30th December 2014, 18:32.

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