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  • 27vet
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    • Nov 2009
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    I do X-Plane simulator and fly the real thing, I use the simulator to check out airports I am unfamiliar with and fly/practice approaches using the real charts in preparation for a flight. I don't see why he would have to plan a flight into oblivion unless he was psycho.
    sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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    • TomcatViP
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      We don't know anything about any possible motives. It's not because a Fr prosecutor did hint the press with his own narrow vision of human kind that we have to tag any suspected rogue pilot as being a psychotic.
      In the 70's, everyone confronted with a similar scenario would have thought at some mafia gangster and a truck load of money in the cargo bay.
      What is the trade rate of Mangos lately ?
      Last edited by TomcatViP; 24th July 2016, 01:44.

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      • 27vet
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        We will only have a few answers, probably not all of them, if the wreck is ever found. I bought an organic mango today at Kroger and it cost $2.79, pretty expensive!
        sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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        • TomcatViP
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          Simulated Flight to nowhere proves nothing

          Seems the DailyBeast agrees with us that there are no more proofs of it being a murder-suicide than the act of a mango Traficant

          (2.8$! )

          The difference between the simulated and actual flights are significant, most notably in the final direction in which they were heading. It’s possible that their overall similarities are coincidental—that Zaharie didn’t intend his simulator flight as a practice run but had merely decided to fly someplace unusual.”
          Quick quick, let's jail every real life pilot that get some relaxed time back home on a PC simulation game by virtually buzzing the Elysee Palace, fly inverted under the Golden gate Bridge or Crash land on the shore of Saint Tropez to assault-land an elite squad of Fr Gendarmes...
          Last edited by TomcatViP; 30th July 2016, 04:57.

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          • TomcatViP
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            Tanzania found wing's part highly likely from MH370

            aircraft wing part found in Tanzania is "highly likely" to be part of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, an Australian government minister said Friday in what would be the second verified piece of the jetliner.
            It's allegedly an outboard wing flap.


            What strikes me the most is the presence of sea shells only found with the part recovered in Fr Mauritia. It suggests, as hinted by Jo, the man who contacted the press, that this part was floating along the shore and sent back at sea each time by the worker specially staffed by the local authorities to clean the beaches by burning everything through campfire (weird as it is illegal to openly burn trashes this way).
            We have here already discussed this at the time.

            EDIT (found in the straightimes (website) today (080516):
            The flaperon, however, is still being withheld by French authorities ever since its discovery on the French island in the Indian Ocean.

            "The French authorities exercised their right to hold on to the flaperon, as they need it as court evidence.

            "They are still investigating the flaperon pending some documentary information from the authorities, including Boeing," Minister Liow said.
            One year since its discovery ?!!*

            Source:
            NBC news.com

            *This is what should make the headline instead of all those weird abnegation against the pilot leisure time on a game simulator backed by no facts.
            Last edited by TomcatViP; 7th August 2016, 02:55.

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            • TomcatViP
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              Inmarsat awaits regulatory standards for flight-data streaming

              SwiftBroadband provides an IP-based connection with a far higher data rate – up to 432kb/s – than previous communications channels. Inmarsat says this “big pipe”, carried through a constellation of three I-4 satellites, enables airlines to consider a range of applications for which data-transfer limitations proved prohibitive.

              “For a long time both suppliers and airlines were content with meeting the minimum for transoceanic flight,” says Inmarsat aviation strategy vice-president Frederik van Essen,
              Notice also how Airbus is at the forefront of the expected regulation with provision made already for a broadband installation on the fleet of A320/30.


              Source:
              FlightGlobal.com
              Last edited by TomcatViP; 17th August 2016, 04:22.

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              • TomcatViP
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                New drift model in study

                Six replicas of the flaperon will be sent to Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization's oceanography department in the island state of Tasmania where scientists will determine whether it is the wind or the currents that affect how they drift, Hood said. This will enable more accurate drift modeling than is currently available.
                If more money becomes available, the Australian bureau plans to fit the flaperons with satellite beacons and set them adrift at different points in the southern Indian Ocean around March 8 next year — the third anniversary of the disaster — and track their movements.

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                The team made is making six replica flaperons which have been fitted with transmitters and will be set out to sea with buoys off the coast of Australia's island state of Tasmania [...]
                http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ing-plane.html

                Source:
                NBC News.com
                Last edited by TomcatViP; 4th September 2016, 04:26.

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                • TomcatViP
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                  As much as 50 new probable debris found in South Africa


                  50 pieces of debris possibly from the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 have been found by amateur searchers along coastlines in South Africa — the same region of the southwestern Indian Ocean where all of the confirmed and “highly likely” pieces of wreckage from the disappeared Boeing 777-200 have turned up.
                  Last edited by TomcatViP; 25th August 2016, 06:36.

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                  • TomcatViP
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                    Possible catastrophic failure suggested by visual inspection of mangled part found on Mozambique coastline

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                    The fact that it is badly mangled with torn edges has led experts to conclude that the aircraft was not glided down for a 'soft' landing on the sea - a claim by those who believe pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah turned 'rogue' and took control of the aircraft on a suicide flight to end in the ocean where it would sink and drown everyone on board.
                    Apparently, also, a Boeing part number has been found on the parts (the one depicted being only a detached piece of a larger one).

                    After the rogue mad pilot theory grossly pushed forward with insistence in a certain press under influence, the Volcano Armageddon orchestrated by local authorities, the weird call back of air searches, we could have now the first piece of evidence linking to the Catastrophic failure theory with crew/passenger incapacitated as we have discussed it on first instance. Our Mangos are now back in the news light...

                    For a refresh, read here or Here*



                    Source:
                    The Daily Mail


                    *Sorry for linking only to my own post. I quickly edited this post based on my memory. Feel free to add links toward other relevant posts and discussions
                    Last edited by TomcatViP; 28th August 2016, 23:32.

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                    • 27vet
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                      • Nov 2009
                      • 2700

                      Check your Daily Mail link, it goes to the main page, not the story in question.

                      Yes, it seems that some parts are mangled and some not (the flaperon). Also, a recent find appeared clean with no barnacles on it. Ingredients for a grande conspiracy theory.
                      sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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                      • TomcatViP
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                        Sorry if I might have looked extatic with this. Not my intention. As written two years ago, there are few hypothesis that match the fact here. Decompression is a fairly well known potential occurence and most crew are well trained for this (see the recent 737 engine failure with a breach of fuselage) and battery runaway that would incapacitate an entire airplane for 9 long hours request a fairly high volume of this (see presumably the 777 from BA with passengers incomadated and vomitting).

                        I checked the link and it is ok. Click on the text in BOLD. I try generally in my "Source" chapter to link to the main page of the website.
                        Last edited by TomcatViP; 29th August 2016, 15:46.

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                        • 27vet
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                          OK I found the story. As I said, funny there are no barnacles on that wreckage. Did the person who found it clean it off?
                          sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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                          • TomcatViP
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                            There are barnacles found so far only on the flaperon discovered on the Fr island.
                            This part is still on hold by the Fr investigation team (scroll back). I will be surprised if amateur specifically searching for parts related to this incident are unaware that you don't alter crime evidences.

                            Most discovered parts were so far from inhabited shores.
                            Last edited by TomcatViP; 15th September 2016, 21:22. Reason: language

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                            • TomcatViP
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                              Barnacles did grow in warmer waters

                              However Fr parallel study does not yield exactly the same conclusion
                              Last edited by TomcatViP; 30th August 2016, 20:51.

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                              • TomcatViP
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                                Austrlia to pursue with the search.


                                search that has so far cost[ed] $180 million and that was expected to end this summer could now be extended into next year. This will be encouraging news for the families of the passengers and crew on the flight who feared that the search was being prematurely curtailed.
                                Seems some sonar contact need more attention

                                Source:
                                The Daily Beast.com
                                Last edited by TomcatViP; 2nd September 2016, 17:07.

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                                • TomcatViP
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                                  Pictures of the parts found in Mozambique

                                  Two of them found separately by the son of a EU diplomat.

                                  Source:
                                  The daily mail.co.uk

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                                  • TomcatViP
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                                    Recovered in Madagascar, burnt internal panels raise other possibilities, including cascading failures after a flash fire


                                    The new pieces, to be given to the Australian Transport Safety Bureau in Canberra today, are non-structural and appear to be sections of an internal wall panel which has been burnt, quite likely by a flash fire.

                                    They strongly resemble some of the the panelling used in the Boeing 777 avionics bay, which is located below and behind the cockpit under the main cabin floor.
                                    The pictures can be seen here: http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...fb81d27e6cd252

                                    It increased after Malaysian authorities revealed the plane had been transporting a large amount of potentially flammable lithium batteries in its cargo.
                                    By the way, I would like to be clear here: to my knowledge, we were the firsts to publicly discuss and come around a plausible battery theory here.

                                    Source:
                                    Yahoo News Australia via The West Australian
                                    Last edited by TomcatViP; 12th September 2016, 21:52.

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                                    • TomcatViP
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                                      • Nov 2011
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                                      In the hands of the ATSB

                                      the ATSB has today received debris from Mr Gibson and are seeking advice from Malaysian authorities regarding how they would like to proceed,” a spokesman told news.com.au.
                                      Last edited by TomcatViP; 12th September 2016, 21:38.

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                                      • TomcatViP
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                                        • Nov 2011
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                                        Tanzania debris "part of the missing plane"


                                        the inboard section of the right, outboard flap of the plane, was recovered in June. [...]
                                        The part numbers and a date stamp on the piece, recovered on Pemba island, helped the investigation.

                                        In addition to the Boeing part number, the report said, the identification stamps had an "OL" number, both unique identifiers to part construction.

                                        The Italian part manufacturer then recovered build records for those numbers, confirming that they belonged to the missing plane.
                                        .
                                        However, in contrary to what is written in the press, I am on the opinion that a ctrled crash landing by an hypothetical pilot in ctrl won't have seen Flap extended if that one was to be experienced. I have already posted crash at sea recommended procedures long ago here, specifically dealing with that hypothesis.

                                        So there are not such conclusion to expect from this. The only thing certain WOULD be that a controlled descent (ascertained by the extended position of the flap) was done by an Inexperienced pilot. This would be a revolutionary conclusion by itself but still inline with the theory of an incapacitated flight crew and unknown numbers of survivors.

                                        Source:
                                        The BBC.com
                                        Last edited by TomcatViP; 15th September 2016, 21:34.

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                                        • R-T-C Tim
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                                          • Jun 2011
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                                          Originally posted by TomcatViP View Post
                                          So there are not such conclusion to expect from this. The only thing certain WOULD be that a controlled descent (ascertained by the extended position of the flap) was done by an Inexperienced pilot. This would be a revolutionary conclusion by itself but still inline with the theory of an incapacitated flight crew and unknown numbers of survivors.
                                          An interesting idea, but it would have to be a pretty experienced pilot to be able to know how to operate the flaps. I'm assuming that by now, if any other passengers on board had flying experience, it would have been flagged up - certainly back when it was thought the plane had been hijacked. It could have been a flight attendant perhaps - I know if I had that role I would learn how to land a plane in an emergency. If they could do that, however, surely they could have been able to change the flight path and head for land, rather than into the middle of nowhere.

                                          The recent discovery of burned parts and mention of batteries is also interesting, but any fire bad enough to damage the fuselage would have surely downed the plane far earlier than its apparent fuel-expiry crash. I would suspect this damage was caused in the crash or even afterwards (suggestion on one news source, they might have been burned on a beach bonfire by locals).

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