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  • charliehunt
    Nearly there!

    CKing - which is why it has been so encouraging to read updates on Sky in the top stories every day.
    Charlie

    Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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    • 27vet
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      CCTV (China, english broadcast) has been quite good. CNN has been getting on my nerves lately. The hotel in which we are staying (makes Fawlty Towers look like the Waldorf Astoria) doesn't offer many choices and every day the channels are missing or different.
      sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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      • TomcatViP
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        Last call from copilot at 5000ft over Penang island on Malaysia's west coast

        Interesting.

        Sources:
        New Straits Times

        The Guardian
        Last edited by TomcatViP; 12th April 2014, 20:44.

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        • 27vet
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          I guess if you ever (God forbid) get into a similar situation, send a text message to someone you trust as they usually stay in the outbox and go through when the phone makes contact with a ground station. In fact, send messages with all resources (whatsapp, skype etc)

          There is almost no doubt in my mind that a sinister person or persons took charge of this flight, but their motive/s is/are very obscure.
          Last edited by 27vet; 12th April 2014, 20:56.
          sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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          • TomcatViP
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            Originally posted by 27vet View Post
            There is almost no doubt in my mind that a sinister person or persons took charge of this flight, but their motive/s is/are very obscure.
            Yes. Sadly speculating on the who's and what will only lead us to step on someone feet that doesn't deserve it .We are simply speachless on that path.

            The "how" on the contrary might be discussed.

            For example, we have now an offcial statement of the range the aircraft flew? How did it manage to do it ? What could have been done to reach that final destination?

            Originally posted by 27vet View Post
            I guess if you ever (God forbid) get into a similar situation, send a text message to someone you trust as they usually stay in the outbox and go through when the phone makes contact with a ground station. In fact, send messages with all resources (whatsapp, skype etc)
            I fear that this is not the way to do. By queuing request in your communication, you might jam the available bandwidth in case of interminent connection.

            The best IMOHO is to use the lighter format (text-message) and prey for it to go through all the way down the recipient.

            On (an even) darker note, I fear that a non-in flight-accessible video recording device could have prevented that incident. For example, would have they smoked in the cockpit while the two girls from Australia were in there if they were aware that a video was recorded ?
            Don't take me wrong, doing stupid things in presence of girls is not to be blamed... But never in a place or time where the life of many rely on your sole responsibility.

            I really can't share the arguments pushed frwd by the Pilot Union. Frankly that's stupid, irrelevant and... shocking given the circumstances.
            Last edited by TomcatViP; 13th April 2014, 18:37.

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            • TomcatViP
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              Confirmation of plane climbing near max safe alt and holding that high for 20min

              Before disappearing from radar screens on March 8, the commercial airliner deviated from its planned route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing by turning leftward over water while it was still inside Vietnamese airspace, the Malaysian aviation source told CNN's Nic Robertson.
              The aircraft then climbed to 39,000 feet, just short of the Boeing 777-200ER's 41,000-foot safe operating limit, and maintained that altitude for about 20 minutes over the Malaysian Peninsula before beginning to descend, the source said.
              Source
              cnn.com

              Extra Ressouces

              Map of search zone @ CNN.COM
              Last edited by TomcatViP; 19th April 2014, 06:07.

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              • 27vet
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                Funny they were talking about 45,000 feet a while back, that seems to have gone quiet. Don't forget though, that the temperature in that part of the world is ISA + 10 to ISA + 20. That means that the real altitude is much higher than the pressure altitude. For example, we were flying at FL360 the other day, the GPS elevation was 38,250 feet.
                sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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                • SimonR
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                  Breaking news from the Daily Mail:

                  "Pieces of wreckage from MH370 may have washed ashore in Western Australia, including one which is 'length of a car with distinct rivets in it'

                  No need to look at the article on their website as that's about the only new bit of 'news' in it. Sounds like the usual wild goose chase and idle speculation that has characterised this whole news story from the start, though!

                  I don't read the news paper you understand - my chips happened to have been wrapped up in the page which contained this article ;-)


                  EDIT: Oh, that's better, it's on the Beeb as well:

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27124532
                  Last edited by SimonR; 23rd April 2014, 13:20. Reason: added link to BBC W/S
                  "A Flight is much like a short life.... So is a Life just like a, er , long flight...?" - Bernard Chabbert, Flying Legends, (Saturday) 2015.

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                  • Bmused55
                    Aaahh Emu!

                    Not news.

                    They are reporting rumour as fact.
                    Bmused55

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                    • charliehunt
                      Nearly there!

                      Indeed - Mail, BBC - makes little difference. Let's wait for the facts - if there are any....
                      Charlie

                      Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                      • ~Alan~
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                        CNN seem to be the only TV station still covering this story.
                        Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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                        • charliehunt
                          Nearly there!

                          And Sky....
                          Charlie

                          Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                          • 27vet
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                            ***Thread drift on*** Have a look at CCTV (China24). I'm fairly impressed with them. All CNN do all day long is sensationalism and hype interspersed with blowing their own trumpet. ***Thread drift off ***
                            Last edited by 27vet; 23rd April 2014, 21:18.
                            sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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                            • mrtotty
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                              I heard last night that interest is diminishing in this 'find'.

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                              • 27vet
                                Rank 5 Registered User

                                The debris is not related to the plane.
                                sigpicHindsight is what you see from the tailgunner's position...

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                                • charliehunt
                                  Nearly there!

                                  No indeed not. So what's next I wonder.....
                                  Charlie

                                  Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                                  • TomcatViP
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                                    The plane is still not declared lost "it is "hard to imagine otherwise [passengers death]." : Malaysian prime minister Najib Razak

                                    he believes there was someone monitoring the radar, "but the interpretation was done after the event."
                                    It was not known whether the plane was MH370, he said, and no planes were sent up to investigate "because it was deemed not to be hostile." It "behaved like a commercial airline, following a normal flight path,"
                                    Source:
                                    CNN.COM

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                                    • fah619
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                                      Malaysian B-777 Folks:

                                      ....and there is always plan "B"! CNN reported today of an experiment with a cell phone (Samsung) dropped in salty water in a small special aquarium for 8 day at the Chicago Aquarium. They had a bit of corrosion but with the proper lab technics the main chip was recovered ok. They were capable to retrieve text, photos & video. In case we do not find the B/boxes then the poss exist to find something in the Cell phones of pax that were awake during the flight. Long shot also!!
                                      Last edited by fah619; 25th April 2014, 21:28. Reason: add data

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                                      • charliehunt
                                        Nearly there!

                                        "The Australian prime minister has launched a new phase in in the hunt for the missing Malaysian airliner.

                                        Now additional underwater equipment is to be deployed and all air searches are to be cancelled.

                                        The intensified operation in the ocean depths could take at least six to eight months for wreckage of the jet which disappeared with 239 people on board on March 8.

                                        “It is highly unlikely, at this stage, that we will find any aircraft debris on the surface. By this stage, 52 days into the search, most material would have become water logged and sunk,” Tony Abbott, Australian Prime Minister told reporters.

                                        The switch from the air to the unmanned probe will cost around $60 million and need to cover an estimated area of more than 30,000 square kilometres.

                                        The failure to find any evidence on the surface, said the Australian prime minister was disappointing and baffling and he admitted the plane may never be found."
                                        Charlie

                                        Keep smiling - it's never as bad as you think!!

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                                        • ~Alan~
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                                          Originally posted by charliehunt View Post
                                          The failure to find any evidence on the surface, said the Australian prime minister was disappointing and baffling and he admitted the plane may never be found."
                                          Which unfortunately may well be the case.
                                          Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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