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By: - 26th May 2003 at 11:40 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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By: - 26th May 2003 at 12:47 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Very sad news indeed. :( R.I.P.
By: - 26th May 2003 at 14:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
In all i think the Yak has an OK accident record?
RIP!
By: - 26th May 2003 at 16:09 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Never flown on a Russian/Soviet a/c. This is yet another reason why im not going to either.
By: - 26th May 2003 at 16:52 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Originally posted by robc
Never flown on a Russian/Soviet a/c. This is yet another reason why im not going to either.
thats what most people say.....i dont blame them for it....but i love Russian jets, and i dont think they are dangerous, its the way they are kept, maintained and flown that is dangerous.
By: - 26th May 2003 at 18:53 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
I like the look of the Russian Jets, and the sound etc, but Im still undecided as to wheter or not I would travel on one?
By: - 26th May 2003 at 20:17 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
According to the media this a/c hit a hillside on approach to Trabzon in bad weather. Looking at my own logs I have 24 flights on Russian made aircraft noted and I'm still here, I would not hesitate to make it 25 or more, 'nuf said! Condolances to all involved in this sad accident.
By: - 26th May 2003 at 20:37 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
Like Kabir said, I think most Russian aircraft are well made and probably would last forever. Likewise, pilots look like they have been well trained.
However, the FSU seems to have a very poor maintainence culture. Also, Russian engines appear to be sub standard. Even with the good standard of airframes and piloting, the engines and maintainence let the side down.
By: - 26th May 2003 at 23:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
The country is shocked. Accidents do happen...but what the hell are our soldier being taken in an ukranian rickety plane?. Of course accidents do happen. But when one refuels in a very conflictiv airport (surounded by mountains), without any navigation aids, with permament bad weather, and with a plane which doesn´t have no TCAS; GWPS and other and whose procedures seem to be risky....the accident is something expected. I wonder if the Spanish Air Force A310 couldn´t have taken them or an Iberia or other decent charte plane. I am really upset. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVERTED. My condolence to the family and respect for these militars, whose main duty is keeping peace, defusing mines, helping poor communities, giving food and medicine assistance and support to people who need it. Really disturbing event. Here you are the web of the airline involved
www.umair-ua.com
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By: - 27th May 2003 at 01:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
condolonces
Russian A/C, ukranian crew, turkish airport..
Great combo
Condolonces to all who suffered.
does anyone know why 12 crew-members?
By: - 27th May 2003 at 14:43 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
yea great shame. I think the Yak-42 does have a better record than most of the russian types - to b fair i dont think i'd have a problem on one of them with a reputable airline where they're more likely to b well maintained
By: - 27th May 2003 at 15:57 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
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ASN ACCIDENT DIGEST 2003-11
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Date: 26 MAY 2003
Time: 04.45
Type: Yakovlev 42D
Operator: Ukrainian-Mediterranean Airlines
Registration: UR-42352
Msn / C/n: 4520421811395
Year built: 1988
Engines: 3 Lotarev D-36
Crew: 13 fatalities / 13 on board
Passengers: 62 fatalities / 62 on board
Total: 75 fatalities / 75 on board
Location: near Macka (Turkey)
Phase: Initial Approach
Nature: Int'l Non Scheduled Passenger
Departure airport: Bishkek Airport (FRU)
Destination airport: Trabzon Airport (TZX)
Flightnumber: 4230
Remarks:
Crashed into a steep mountainside. The aircraft carried 62 Spanish
peacekeeping forces, heading back home from Kabul.
The METAR (weather) report at the approximate time of the accident (01.45
GMT) read: LTCG 260150Z 27010KT 230V310 9999 -SHRA SCT008 BKN030 18/17
Q1013 NOSIG RMK RWY29 27011KT=
Sources:
Reuters; Interfax
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AIRCRAFT PROFILE YAKOVLEV 42
* Last (civilian) hull-loss accident: 25 DEC 1999 Cubana CU-T1285, at
Bejuma, Venezuela- 22 fatalities
* Last fatal accident: ibid.
* Total number of hull-losses: 8 losses
* Of the 8 losses, 7 airplanes were lost as a result of an accident, 1 was
lost as a result of another occurrence (ground fire)
* 4th worst Yak-42 accident
* Survival rate for all fatal accidents: 21,4% of all occupants survived
fatal Yak-42 accidents
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AIRLINE PROFILE UKRAINIAN-MEDITERRANEAN AIRLINES
A Ukrainian charter airline operating a.o. Boeing 737-300 aircraft and a
single Yakovlev 42D
* Founded: 2000
* Website: http://www.umair-ua.com/e_index.html
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COUNTRY PROFILE TURKEY
* Last (civilian) hull-loss accident: 08 JAN 2003 THY Avro RJ.100 TC-THG -
75 fatalities
* Last fatal accident: ibid
* Total number of civil airliner hull-losses since 1945: 38 losses (24 of
which were fatal)
* 2nd worst airliner accident in Turkey
* Of the 38 losses, 37 airplanes were lost as a result of an accident, 1
was lost as a result of another occurrence (ground fire)
* Turkey is rated Category 1 (meeting ICAO standards) in FAA`s
International Aviation Safety Assessment Program (IASA)
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AIRPORT PROFILE TRABZON
* ICAO/IATA designators: LTCG / TZX
* Latitude: 40° 59' 42.39" N / 039° 47' 23.02" E
* Elevation: 104ft/ 32m
* Runway: 11/29 (2640 x 45 meters, asphalt, ILS equipped)
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2003 SO FAR
* Number of fatal hull-loss airliner accidents : 11 (safety rank since
1950: 2nd safest)
* Number of fatalities: 351 (safety rank since 1950: 21st worst)
(Coverage: fatal, multi engine civil airliner accidents)
Posts: 11,159
By: Ren Frew - 26th May 2003 at 11:36
A Yak-42 carrying Spanish peacekeeping troops from Afghanistan operations has crashed into a mountain in Northern Turkey killing all aboard apparently.
BBC NEWS REPORT