Manx 2 Crash At Cork

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Apparently EC-ITP operating for Manx 2 has crashed while attempting to land at Cork. Reports seem to be saying 8 dead and around 14 injured. Very sad news indeed. :(

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What the hell? That's shocking. I still do some instructing out of Staverton and see the Manx2 Metroliners in there all the time. can't believe it.

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Very sad news. It's upside down too.
Does the sewer pipe carry an FDR and CVR? I reckon from the state of the front, the pilot won't be able to say what happened :(

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I doubt it Sandy, it isn't mandatory to carry a CVR/FDR on an a/c of that size.

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EC-ITP was a semi-regular visitor to my little local airport so me and my camera saw her on a number of occasions. Here's a little pictorial tribute to her in better times, may those lost rest in peace. :(

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/MMSR5/EC-ITP2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/MMSR5/EC-ITP1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/MMSR5/EC-ITP3.jpg

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Awfull news, that flight would have passed over us here .

My thoughts and prayers are with those who have died , their families and friends.

6 confirmed dead and 6 injured from 10 passengers and 2 crew, as detailed on RTE, the national broadcaster in Ireland.

They have just shown film on the Tv news, its horrendous.

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This is NOT a good image

http://img.rasset.ie/0004369a-640.jpg

Looking at that, i'm amazed anyone survived, i imagine those that did survive were sat in the rear, and looking at how much the roof has caved in at the back i would think the survivors would have sustained serious spinal injuries?

this crash realy is a shock to the system for me, as an aircraft dispatcher i have dealt with this airline and their crews before, as people have said, its a very sad day :(

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This is NOT a good image

http://img.rasset.ie/0004369a-640.jpg

That's really quite disturbing. The last time I saw that aircraft was in the above photos flying around just like any other plane, I have tremendous difficulty getting my head around how it can go so swiftly from flying around happily to being, well, like that. I have a big interest in aviation accidents and have spent a fair amount of time researching them, but I don't think I'll ever really understand the whole concept that a plane and the people it carries can be there one second and just not exist the next. Frightening.

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Same as me, Paul, scary stuff.

Funny enough I was just about to come on here and post a video on the Turkish Airlines Crash in Amsterdam when I saw this thread. I have refrained from doing so now, seems pointless.

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This is NOT a good image

http://img.rasset.ie/0004369a-640.jpg


That's the picture I saw earlier. The forward fuselage has simply disappeared!
Hence why I doubt the pilot well be able to comment on the crash. RIP all.

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Deano, I'm not trying to guess what happened, I'm merely curious, but what kind of approach would an aircraft like that be doing in heavy fog? I'm guessing it wouldn't have autoland so would they have just have been following the ILS down?

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The Daily Mail has updated the article with more pictures.

Six passengers have been killed and six have been seriously injured in the crash. It is not yet known if the pilot and crew survived.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1355515/Cork-airport-crash-Six-people-confirmed-dead-plane-overturned-landing-heavy-fog.html#ixzz1DYkuVMSo

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Paul Cork has a CAT II ILS approach onto runway 17, found here

I am unsure whether the Metroliner flying for Flightavia under their AOC is CAT II capable. Remember though the aircaft, crew, and approach needs to be CAT II capable for it to be legal.
If it was legal then they would have needed 300 meters visibility to make an approach. I haven't studied the chart above in detail but unless there are local procedures in place you'll generally need 550mtrs visibility to make an approach under CAT I conditions.

Should they have attempted an approach onto Rwy35 then 550mtrs would apply (unless local procedures restrict) as it only has a CAT I ILS on it. All other runways have Non-Precision approaches

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Thanks for the info, Dean. Much appreciated.

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Extremely sad news - condolences to those bereaved

Extremely sad news - condolences to those bereaved

Speedy recovery to those who miraculously survived and may those departed RIP.

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The BBC were reporting that it crashed on it's third attempt to land. The reporter suggested that after the first abort, it tried landing from the opposite direction which it aborted again, before trying a third time back on the original direction.

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Terrible.I`ve flown on these a number of times.It suddenly makes all my flight emergency instruction seem worthless when an aircraft ends up upside down,can`t believe anyone got out at all.

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TrolleyDolly

Don't think like that. Your safety instructions are absolutely vital. Do you know how difficult it can be just to unfasten a seatbelt in a high stress situation like a crash? You'll be amazed at how many people won't be able to do those simple tasks. This could be the difference between life and death if the aircraft is on fire.
The only difference in this scenario is that they wouldn't have known anything was wrong until it was too late, but 4 of the 8 passengers on board walked away. It is moments like this that you guys down the back are absolutely critical. (I know there were no CC on board in this instance)