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  • KabirT
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    Posting of videos on the forum - updated

    Hi all,

    Recent video posts have brought to our attention the need to put in some rules in this regard. These rules will be on a trial basis for now and may well be removed or changed in the future if things don't work out for the best of the forum.

    As of now...

    1: A video thread will be created in the Civil Aircraft Images sub-forum. (regular picture contributors are welcomed to give their opinions on this move).

    2: All videos posted on this thread MUST be relevant and not random in nature. For example a plain video of an A320 just landing at LHR is not welcomed and will be treated as spam. One should post links only to their own videos.

    3: If the moderation team determine that items are being presented on this forum for the main purpose of artificially ramping up viewing statistics elsewhere, the user responsible may face a permanent ban.

    4: Repeated postings of random videos can get the user banned.

    Any opinions and thoughts on this move are welcomed.

    The Moderators Team

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    An exclusive videos only thread has been created in Civil Aviation Images. Please feel free to use it to share civil aviation videos keeping in mind the above said rules.

    The thread can be found here http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...99#post1631699
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    Last edited by KabirT; 29th August 2010, 19:10. Reason: Too Many Rule 3's...... :0)
    "one is the loneliest number.."
  • Orion
    Rank 5 Registered User

    #2
    I must say, I think, that the tenor of 'KabirT's post is pretty intimidating. Perhaps it wasn't intended to be so, but there seems to be a dirty great banner associated with it which says 'No Videos Here'.

    As a videographer who doesn't take stills at all I'm a little confused. I post my vidoes on YouTube, they are generally of light aviation/air displays/steam railways and are put up on YouTube simply to share, ie they are in the same spirit as the enthusiasts who put their stills up on one of the stills sites that are available.

    Please could the moderation team offer clarification as to their intentions and the criteria by which they would judge videos.

    Regards
    David Mylchreest
    Steam and Model Railway videos http://www.youtube.com/user/PenrithBeacon
    Aviation videos http://www.youtube.com/user/austerfive

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    • Grey Area
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      #3
      Orion,

      I'm puzzled as to how you could read Kabir's post and come to the conclusion that it adds up to 'No Videos Here'. A brief glance at the General Discussion forum ought to be enough to dispel that particular notion.

      I'm even more puzzled as to in what way you could have found it to be intimidating.

      It simply sets out the rules for posting links from this forum to one's own videos hosted elsewhere, and describes the measures in place to forestall possible abuse of those rules.

      Frankly, this was a group decision by the moderator team - including the Webmaster - and it will stand for the foreseeable future.
      You can't fool owls.

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      • Orion
        Rank 5 Registered User

        #4
        Originally posted by Grey Area View Post
        Frankly, this was a group decision by the moderator team - including the Webmaster - and it will stand for the foreseeable future.
        As I said, intimidating and unwelcoming. It shouldn't come as a surprise to you that there aren't many airline films posted on these forums or that the only person who has posted so far on the thread was clearly taking the mickey!
        David Mylchreest
        Steam and Model Railway videos http://www.youtube.com/user/PenrithBeacon
        Aviation videos http://www.youtube.com/user/austerfive

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        • Grey Area
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          #5
          You're perfectly entitled to hold and to express your opinion, Orion.

          In the meantime, things will stay as they are.
          You can't fool owls.

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          • PMN
            PMN
            PlaneObsessedBassPlayer

            #6
            Originally posted by Orion View Post
            As I said, intimidating and unwelcoming. It shouldn't come as a surprise to you that there aren't many airline films posted on these forums or that the only person who has posted so far on the thread was clearly taking the mickey!
            Perhaps you could quote a line that comes across to you as particularly intimidating and unwelcoming and explain how you interpret it as such? I'm a little perplexed by your analysis of Kabir's posting, which as a regular visitor to this forum I see absolutely nothing wrong with.

            Paul
            My images on Flickr Jetphotos A.Net

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            • KabirT
              Rank 5 Registered User

              #7
              Originally posted by Orion View Post
              I must say, I think, that the tenor of 'KabirT's post is pretty intimidating. Perhaps it wasn't intended to be so, but there seems to be a dirty great banner associated with it which says 'No Videos Here'.

              As a videographer who doesn't take stills at all I'm a little confused. I post my vidoes on YouTube, they are generally of light aviation/air displays/steam railways and are put up on YouTube simply to share, ie they are in the same spirit as the enthusiasts who put their stills up on one of the stills sites that are available.

              Please could the moderation team offer clarification as to their intentions and the criteria by which they would judge videos.

              Regards
              Orion,

              you are free to share your videos via the video thread specifically created in the Aircraft Images section as mentioned before. As said, kindly just avoid posting random landings and take offs that may not be interesting from a viewers point of view. We have had users before subtly posting their videos all over the place only to promote their YouTube channel, which is not permitted on this forum.

              Hope some clarity would be achieved.
              "one is the loneliest number.."

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              • Orion
                Rank 5 Registered User

                #8
                Originally posted by KabirT View Post
                Orion,

                you are free to share your videos via the video thread specifically created in the Aircraft Images section as mentioned before. As said, kindly just avoid posting random landings and take offs that may not be interesting from a viewers point of view. We have had users before subtly posting their videos all over the place only to promote their YouTube channel, which is not permitted on this forum.

                Hope some clarity would be achieved.
                Thank you for the clarification. I have a video of last Sunday's Shuttleworth show in post-production right now and I will post it when it is complete.

                Regards
                David Mylchreest
                Steam and Model Railway videos http://www.youtube.com/user/PenrithBeacon
                Aviation videos http://www.youtube.com/user/austerfive

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                • Grey Area
                  Punter

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Orion View Post
                  Thank you for the clarification. I have a video of last Sunday's Shuttleworth show.....
                  I'm afraid that would be off-topic for this sub-forum, which is for images of commercial aircraft.

                  However, it would be welcomed with open arms in the Airshow Photos sub-forum.
                  You can't fool owls.

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                  • atr42
                    Rank 5 Registered User

                    #10
                    May I ask a question about point 2 please. Links to interesting videos have been posted by people who don't own the video. The proposed rules appear to me to prevent this.
                    Whilst I haven't posted any videos I'd be grateful for guidance on this point as I do like some of the videos posted.
                    Thanks
                    John

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                    • KabirT
                      Rank 5 Registered User

                      #11
                      Hi atr42,

                      apologies for the late reply. I admit its not an easy rule to apply as the videos are concerned. What we basically want to avoid is members specifically joining in and promoting their or their friends video pages. Along with this, we would prefer if users stick to posting 'interesting' videos and not just a speck on the horizon landing or taking off from a field.

                      If you have videos hosted on YouTube or any other such site feel free to post them keeping in mind the above things. Also, make sure you post it in the Aviation Videos thread in the Images sub-forum.

                      K
                      "one is the loneliest number.."

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                      • heslop01
                        Rank 5 Registered User

                        #12
                        OK, so i'm pretty tired today, so I wasn't sure, so just checking, the link I post to a YouTube video of a commerical aircraft is ok, as long as the video was filmed and uploaded by me? ... :S
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                        • KabirT
                          Rank 5 Registered User

                          #13
                          Originally posted by heslop01 View Post
                          OK, so i'm pretty tired today, so I wasn't sure, so just checking, the link I post to a YouTube video of a commerical aircraft is ok, as long as the video was filmed and uploaded by me? ... :S
                          yea thats fine, but make for thge vieweres benefit make sure the video is of good quality and a good watch. As I said before there is no hard and fast rule for this, it is difficult to make one to say the least.
                          "one is the loneliest number.."

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                          • tarkey
                            Rank 5 Registered User

                            #14
                            PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING THICK

                            IF I SEE A YOU TUBE VIDEO OF GOOD GENERAL INTEREST BUT NOT TAKEN BY ME I CANT POST A LINK TO IT. EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN THE GENERAL DOMAIN
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                            • KabirT
                              Rank 5 Registered User

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tarkey View Post
                              PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR BEING THICK

                              IF I SEE A YOU TUBE VIDEO OF GOOD GENERAL INTEREST BUT NOT TAKEN BY ME I CANT POST A LINK TO IT. EVEN THOUGH IT IS IN THE GENERAL DOMAIN
                              YOU CAN.
                              "one is the loneliest number.."

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                              • Orion
                                Rank 5 Registered User

                                #16
                                Well, Ive just posted a link to my most recent film and I find that in around 12 months there have only been 27 posts on the thread and many of those films are not by the poster.

                                By now alarm bells ought to be ringing amongst the moderators. This idea is not of having a separate threads for video and stills is not working.

                                Please can the moderation team reconsider and permit movies and stills in the same topic.

                                Regards
                                David Mylchreest
                                Steam and Model Railway videos http://www.youtube.com/user/PenrithBeacon
                                Aviation videos http://www.youtube.com/user/austerfive

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