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By: 16th February 2010 at 05:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Inspections
Are their no post flight inspections done by groundcrew?IE airframe engineers?
By: 16th February 2010 at 09:38 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Interesting story, but just out of interest where did the images come from? They're both by Tom Alfano who I suspect hasn't given permission for them to be used without some kind of credit.
Links to them would probably be more appropriate:
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6588814&nseq=8
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6647878&nseq=6
Paul
By: 16th February 2010 at 09:58 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Jesus wept Paul ..why don't you relax and just enjoy the story :(:rolleyes: the images are not from Jetphotos ..they're from a blog
By: 16th February 2010 at 10:04 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Just saying links would be more appropriate, that's all. I'm a photographer, these things bug me! :D
By: 16th February 2010 at 12:12 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-OMG!:eek: I used to not be scared of flying!!
Amazing to think that there were no indications in the flight deck that the fuselage was badly damaged!!
By: 16th February 2010 at 12:22 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Well, if all the controls handle correctly, there is no real way to tell from within the cockpit once the aircraft is on the ground.
Due to the fact that aircraft fuselages naturally flex, there is no point installing sensors to monitor the fuselage as they would be triggered so often that the crew would discount the alarms and "normal". At least, that is my understanding.
Of course, if they had taken off a pressurisation problem would have quickly made itself known.
By: 16th February 2010 at 12:31 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Goes to show how strong the nose gear is, if the airframe suffered $11m worth of damage.
Good to see a happy ending here.
By: 16th February 2010 at 18:30 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Of course, if they had taken off a pressurisation problem would have quickly made itself known.
Water running down the inside walls of the cabin would be a fairly good indication of a nice hole somewhere, so it probably wouldn't have pressurised at all. No idea how much the damage weakened the structure though, quite considerably I imagine!
Paul
By: 16th February 2010 at 18:34 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-do you think the cabin skin would have peeled off like the Hawian B737 did a few years ago?
By: 16th February 2010 at 18:56 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-I think it's probably pretty much impossible to even vaguely guess as none of us know the exact extend of the damage (and most of us aren't qualified to guess anyway). Safe to say it probably wouldn't have been good though!
By: 16th February 2010 at 19:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Water running down the inside walls of the cabin would be a fairly good indication of a nice hole somewhere, so it probably wouldn't have pressurised at all.
Hence why I said a pressurisation problem would make itself known ;)
We do not know how much water was running down the walls. May only have been a couple of drops which would easily be misdiagnosed as Air Con condensation.
By: 16th February 2010 at 19:10 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-When was that incident?
Given the declining residual value of current B767s a quite costly action.
By: 16th February 2010 at 20:03 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-It happened almost a year ago and the repair was completed 6 months ago. Not really new!
May only have been a couple of drops which would easily be misdiagnosed as Air Con condensation.
Does that happen? I've never seen water on the inside walls of a plane through condensation. The 'smoke' through the vents on the A320 series in really hot weather can be quite interesting but I don't ever remember seeing water on the walls.
It would certainly get my attention if I saw it!
Paul
By: 16th February 2010 at 20:20 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Saw a youtube video with flight attendants handing out napkins as the Air con was leaking out water.
Appears to happen once in a while when certain conditions are met. What those are I do not know.
By: 16th February 2010 at 22:27 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Interesting article Mr Rowell, thanks for bringing the story and pictures to our attention.
By: 16th February 2010 at 22:35 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-Worse, The whole front section could have broken off.
Bullcrap.
The airplane wouldn't pressurize under such conditions.
If the aircraft had taken off, it would have returned after a short time.
No real safety issue here.
By: 17th February 2010 at 19:21 Permalink - Edited 1st January 1970 at 01:00
-No real safety issue here.
One of the funniest things I've read in ages! Cheers! :D :D
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By: steve rowell - 16th February 2010 at 03:50
Royal Air Maroc Flight 200 was completing a routine Atlantic crossing from Casablanca, carrying 210 passengers and 10 crew. The weather on approach to JFK’s runway 4R, however, was not so routine, the airport being battered by rain and 28kt gusts. The 767-36N/ER (CN-RNT) was unstable as she crossed the numbers, and proceeded to slam down, nose wheel first, before settling on her main landing gear.
Despite what was surely a very bumpy ride, the crew maintained control through the rollout. She exited the runway, taxied to the gate, deplaned her passengers and underwent normal post-flight procedures. Although the flight crew almost certainly must have known that the landing was out of the ordinary, nothing was ever reported to the tower or ground, some say because they were “shy.”
Move forward a few hours to preparations for Royal Air Maroc Flight 201, the return leg which is normally operated by the same aircraft. After crews had moved the plane from a hardstand to the gate, loading it with cargo and catering and commencing boarding, the First Officer trudged out into the still pouring rain and continued high winds to perform his pre-flight walk around. And that’s when he noticed something wasn’t right: A blemish in the outer skin, at roughly the same time passengers noticed water running down the side panels of the cabin. Closer inspection revealed that 767’s outer skin was seriously compromised. Needless to say, thankfully RAM 201 never left the gate that night.
The plane was moved to a hangar where she could be inspected to ascertain the entire scope of the damage. It was dramatic: Multiple joints, ribbing and fasteners were either crushed or shattered like glass. The nose gear area suffered internal damage, and the outer skin was split open so much in some spots it was easy to see to the sky from the inside of the plane.
A team lead by Boeing with assistance from Delta Tech Ops was tasked with the repair. For four months she has remained at JFK, during which she’s been stripped down to her skeleton, her outer skin removed removed in damaged areas. The Boeing techs went to work essentially rebuilding these sections from scratch at an estimated cost of $11 million.