Colgan Flight 3407 co-pilot sent 2 texts prior to takeoff

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The co-pilot of the plane that crashed in Clarence Center last February used her cell phone in the cockpit to send two text messages prior to takeoff, possibly in violation of federal "sterile cockpit" rules that bar pilots from focusing on anything but the flight to which they are assigned.

Rebecca L. Shaw, the flight's first officer, sent those text messages after boarding the airplane in Newark, N.J., for the flight to Buffalo.

One was made at 7:58 p.m., apparently before the airplane began its ground taxi.

The second was at 9:13 p.m., five minutes before the plane took off.

A National Transportation Safety Board investigator reported the text messages in a document filed in preparation for the board's Tuesday meeting to consider its final report in the crash of Continental Connection Flight 3407, which claimed 50 lives.

Source: The Buffalo News

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Complete and utter nonsense. What next?

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What are these 'sterile cockpit rules' and do the only apply to US airlines ..or are they Universal

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Complete and utter nonsense. What next?

The pilot hiccuped 30 mins before the crash?!

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That's not so ridiculous as it seems. Text can be a good way to communicate from the secure area of the airport. It's not like pilots don't aviate, navigate, and communicate at the same time on a fairly regular basis... Now if it happened while the aircraft was moving, that might be a bigger issue.

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Hmm... Whether it was a contributing factor or not, a rule is a rule so either way it shouldn't have been broken. It will be interesting to see what bearing, if any, it has on the outcome.

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Sterile cockpit extends from the time to drop the brake before pushback until you are above 10,000' MSL. The one exception (I'm not sure if every airline does this) is when the brake is set while on the ground the sterile cockpit rules don't apply. This is assuming a situation where a crew is sitting for a long period of time waiting for a gate or to takeoff.

The biggest issue I see with the FO in this event is the lack of professionalism regarding her inability to follow the rule of no electronic devices below 10,000'. Clearly her head wasn't in the game if she was firing off text messages on the taxi out.

Safety reforms lag a year after NY plane crash

People are looking for someone/something to lay the blame on. Sure the Co-pilot broke a technical rule, but maybe she prepared the message before brake release and just hit send during taxi. So I don't believe that the text message had any bearing on the accident. Rather, it would be overall behavior that could indicate a lack of professionalism. Lawmakers can go from the sublime to the ridiculous with rules because no matter what the pilot's actions are in the cockpit, there could be something in his/her mind causing a distraction. Now are they going to make a rule which outlaws thoughts not related to the flight? Instead, look at the lawmakers in the link above. A year later they have still not implemented their reforms.

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Even if she prepared the text earlier she shouldn't have had an electronic deviced powered up in the first place. It's a few bad apples that spoil the bunch.