Hmm... very strange but I have found this pic too. So congratulations you have right. Thx for your attention . I will delete my pic.
Probably the other webiste is making disinformation on the internet.
This Mig-25 is from Monino.
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Mi-24G Superhind Mk IV
G stands for "Gecə", meaning "Night".
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Russia and Azeriland have quite cordial relations, but is very clear that they favor Armenia and has bases there. If Armenia and Azeriland go to war again, will Russia still be willing to give supplies and parts to the Azeris?
Turkey on the other hand may be more willing to help Azeris, perhaps donating F-16s and F-4s..
if AzeriAF had F-4s.. the F-4 and MiG-29 combo would make the AzAF the smokiest air force in the planet :diablo:
but who knows.. Turkey under Erdogan Helicopters does things oppositely.. they're willing to work militarily with Serbia, and go against Israel their ally. Maybe Erdogan may go against Azeriland too..
Russia and Azerbaijan have good relationship, hell they even sold them Favorit recently. IF anything Russian relations with both nations just decrease the likelihood of conflict in the area, though I am not sure as to actual Azeri intentions in regards to Armenia.
What is curios is they ordered both Mi-35M and this hideous South African upgrade....needless fleet splitting IMO. Does the front seater have ANY visibility with that installation ?
No JF-17 Thunders just yet then? What ever happened to this order? Thought it was a done deal
I don't think there were such an order.
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Not air force, but should add this.
China is generally pretty good on deliveries, if they ordered it back two or three years ago when we first heard the story, it would've been delivered already.
south african upgrade is a good upgrade,What is curios is they ordered both Mi-35M and this hideous South African upgrade....needless fleet splitting IMO. Does the front seater have ANY visibility with that installation ?
here's the front view
AFAIK that is Mk 3, not Mk IV.
Mk IV cockpit has MFDs, while this is supposedly the Mk3 cockpit. http://media.photobucket.com/image/S...iscl/Hind2.jpg
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TR1, how many night capable attack helis Russian is planning?
I don't think other CIS countries (of course, excluding Russia) come even close to Azerbaijan in night attack heli capabilities.
Apparently a lot, the current breakdown as we know it is:
97 Mi-28N through 2015, more after. Total number around 200 was floated.
Ka-52 has current contract for 30 airframes through 2012, but recently it was voiced that total numbers maybe around 120. Also, Naval Ka-52 is going to be procured.
Finally there is a current order for 22 Mi-35M.
There is also the small batch of Mi-24PN, but that program seems to be dead.
In other former Soviet countries, Azerbaijan seems to be pretty much the clear winner. They ordered what, 24 Mi-35Ms, and how many Super Hinds do they have? Aside from Russia and Azerbaijan the CIS countries rely completely on legacy Mi-24.
Thank you for the answer.
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2.) Factory production capability per year. Easier to produce both than set up another line for either chopper.
3.) Factory employment and future stability
4.) I suspected they would order a number of both and see which does better in service, I guess so much for that.
5.) I don't think the Zulu Cobra comparison is really analogous here, because the Cobra/Apache split has to do with different service branch requirements, deployment specifics, and funding.
but yes they are quite cool, and it'd be easier to love one than two :diablo:
but I might just have to side with the Kamov simply because I think contra rotating rotors should be the way to go for most things. All of the concepts for that new US Joint Helicopter, all use contra rotating rotors.
something worth mentioning.. why are both the HOkum and Havok so damn heavy.. they are both signifciantly heavier than the next two western heavies, the Apache Longbow and Rooivalk
They are bigger, have a bigger payload, and let's not even talk about armor levels.
Just look at the engine power, it is not higher randomly.
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Completely OT, but isn't Rooivalk pretty mouch dead? Small domestic order and no sucess on the export market. And who would want to gamble with a SA helo considering the state the country is in and heading?Originally Posted by J
something worth mentioning.. why are both the HOkum and Havok so damn heavy.. they are both signifciantly heavier than [I
Before the delivery, the Azeri MiG-29s were upgraded to basic standard MiG-29MU1. That includes N019M1 radar updated by Phazotron Ukraine but without the Belrussian MFD installed in the cockpit.
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