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    Stunning

    Lovely work Mr Collins, I wish you every success with your project, it really is stunningly well made. Any ideas when you might be building that full fuselage and is it manufactured in the same way the Mosquito one was?

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    nice labels Mr C!

    So I suppose that you'll be coming to Wyton soon to install them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIRCUS 6 View Post
    Lovely work Mr Collins, I wish you every success with your project, it really is stunningly well made. Any ideas when you might be building that full fuselage and is it manufactured in the same way the Mosquito one was?

    C6
    Thanks, and the credit should go to Mark for these.

    The fuselage is build exactly as the Mosquito. To do this we need a lot of space that would be guaranteed for a number of years without having to move. I have attached an image showing Glyn Powell's mosquito mould to illustrate the space required for one half only!

    The intention is to make a complete fuselage for the Hornet.... it's just a case of finding some affordable and secure space for the long term, and close to home. The current section that has been made will grow over the next year by another 4-5ft, but until more space is found this will be the limit of the forward fuselage for the time being.

    Don't worry, ther's plenty still to do on the cockpit section!
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    Hornet CAD model images

    Here are a few images from the full size Hornet CAD model.

    The fuselage CAD model has been produced using the de Havilland lofting drawing, that charts all of the co-ordinate points measured from the inner and outer skins. It is really clear from this just how slender the Hornet fuselage is. I have included a view showing the cockpit fuselage half overlaid on the nose section mould to show how this is laid up.

    The instrument panel CAD assembly was created using the de Havilland component drawings for each instrument panel.
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    Were Hornet (and Mossies come to that) fusalages built at the normal factories, or did they have special departments for the wood moulding etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pagen01 View Post
    Were Hornet (and Mossies come to that) fusalages built at the normal factories, or did they have special departments for the wood moulding etc?
    Well, different written sources give different views on this. I can only say that so far, I haven't found the need to pre-mould any skin panels on the forward fuselage. It's all done in-situ on the main mould itself. The only parts that I have had to pre-form are the bulkheads. Originally, there would have been more pre-manufactured components being sent to the line to expediate production, however, as we are doing a one-off this is not so necessary.

    The de Havilland aircraft company had a large network of sub-contractors for the wooden fuselage parts. Bulkheads, longerons, between skin hard points, and edging strips were pre formed in these factories. In many cases, the basic fuselages were also made in these sub-contractors, with the final assembly itself taking place at Hatfield or Chester for example. However, a number of Hornets were made entirely at Hatfield and Chester, from the basic wooden sub-components, through to the complete flying aircraft being rolled out the door.

    I have read in some sources that DH had some large pre-moulded skin panels delivered to be fitted into the mould. If this is the case, then it would most likely have been around the nose area, due to the higher number strips used, and the tighter bend radii they have to form around.
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    Thanks for that David, and the excellent updates and illustrations.

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    Progress update

    Only a small item, but here is the new manufactured right hand punkah louvre bracket for the Hornet cockpit. This bracket has been made using the known ferrule locations in the skin to provide the hole locations, and photos. It will be fitted in the space between the canopy winder and the spare GGS bulbs.

    Next on the list are the pilots ladder brackets and the left hand punkah louvre bracket.
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    Nice one David.. that cockpit is looking so impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyvernfan View Post
    Nice one David.. that cockpit is looking so impressive.
    Thanks Rob,

    I will be making more regular updates now.
    David Collins
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    Quote Originally Posted by pagen01 View Post
    Were Hornet (and Mossies come to that) fusalages built at the normal factories, or did they have special departments for the wood moulding etc?
    As David said,many sub contractors were used (as with most a/c production),for the mossie many of the larger wood assemblies were done by furniture manufacturers.
    Here is a link to a list of mossie suppliers...
    amongst others - Styles and Mealing (H Wycombe ) did Fuse shells.
    Harris Lebus did Fuselage and Wing production

    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...YWTSAke8cddS2w

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    Hornet ammunition box and hydraulic tank request

    I've finally found a good photo of the Hornet ammunition boxes and hydraulic reservoir tank (outlined in red) for reference. Does anyone happen to have either of these, they might be willing to part with???
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    Hornet ladder brackets

    Here's another little part for the Hornet - first of two brackets, to which the pilots ladder mounts to the back of the seat armour. RH shown.
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    RH Punkah louvre fitted

    Today with John Lathwells assistance, we fitted the RH Punkah louvre to the Hornet cockpit. This job included marking out the inner skin accurately, cutting the holes, and glueing the three mounting ferrules in place.

    I am now looking for some 1" diameter black rubber tube to join it to the manifold on the nose bulkhead. It requires about 2m to do both sides if anyone can recommend a supplier?
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    David try Tennant Rubber at Nottingham. 01159852300 www,tennantrubber.co

    Wonderful to watch the Hornet grow.

    John

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    when do you plan to attach the fusulage to the wings ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spitfire alex View Post
    when do you plan to attach the fusulage to the wings ?
    See post #38 alex .

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Aeroclub View Post
    David try Tennant Rubber at Nottingham. 01159852300 www,tennantrubber.co

    Wonderful to watch the Hornet grow.

    John
    Thanks John, I'll give them a try.
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    Beautiful tinbashing stuff mate.Keep going!!!!!
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    Ladder brackets now complete. One just needs painting now.
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    Fantastic detail in your work there David. Are those raised 'discs' that you find on the inner skin of DH wood fuses the various mounting points for cockpitt items?

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    Hi Pagen01

    Yes, the raised wooden disks are the ferrules. Each wooden disk has a round boss bonded to its back, into which fasteners can be screwed.

    They come in 3 types:

    Laminated Wood boss for brass wood screws
    Turned aluminium/anodised boss for bolts
    Metal threaded inserted into a Bakelite boss for bolts

    The wooden ones are for lighter parts.
    The metal ones can hold heavier assemblies.
    The turned aluminium ones don't fare well, as they usually corrode due to absorbing moisture from the wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcollins103 View Post
    Ladder brackets now complete. One just needs painting now.
    Which one?
    Why be your own worse critic, that's what the forum is for.

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    Second Hornet instrument panel

    Having created all of the tooling and drawings for the Hornet instrument panels about 6 years ago, it has seemed a waste not to use them again. I've been lucky enough to find all of the necessary instrumentation for a Sea Hornet over the past 6 months, so have decided to make a second set of instrument panels for display. These will be for an early 50's F.20 Sea Hornet.

    I think this should compliment the early instrument fit in the circa 1946 Hornet F.1 nicely.

    There are a few positional differences for some of the Sea Hornet instruments, but the most obvious change is the radio and navigation equipment fit. As time permits I'll add some progress photos to this thread, along side the ongoing forward fuselage build.

    Thanks to the eagle eyed Bruce Gordon, I've now been able to add these original Hornet pulley assemblies and fairleads to the collection.
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    David,

    You are unstoppable, keep it up.
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    Very Nice Work David.

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    Is this the begginings of a Sea Hornet F.20 cockpit section ?

    Cockpitfest 2030 perhaps ?

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    what an Interesting Project ! , I hope at the the finish of the project , people will realize how much effort and time has been put in .

    Saw this while browsing through the 'Pathe News' website

    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=62468

    Just about every angle of the Aircraft seen here , but unfortunately no Cockpit shots .....

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    Olympus - "Is this the begginings of a Sea Hornet F.20 cockpit section?" Now that's an idea! I have a spare canopy, but its the other parts such as the throttle box, control column, and other flying controls that could be impossible to find second examples of.

    Cees, Hindenberg, Groundhugger - many thanks!
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    Wanted DH Parts

    Great footage of 33 Squadron's Hornets. Did my eyes deceive me or were the groundcrew sitting behind the cockpit during the taxying shots?

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