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    European 787 operators

    What european airlines have ordered the 787 so far?,i'm also anxious to see if Air Canada are still operating to Dublin by that the time when they get their's will they use them to DUB & SNN. Of those airlines who have ordered some where in europe could we see some?

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    I think the only two European airlines to order the 787 are Blue Panorama and First Choice.

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    + Icelandair & Lot.

    LCAL & ILFC have purchased some for leasing, although it's not yet clear who to.

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    There has been some speculation that Thomsonfly are deciding what to do this year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by topjet330
    There has been some speculation that Thomsonfly are deciding what to do this year!
    Its a fair bet that whatever Thomsonfly order will be part of a large bulk order from the TUI group.

    I heard not long ago that the TUI group were organising the financing for a large aircraft order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bmused55
    Its a fair bet that whatever Thomsonfly order will be part of a large bulk order from the TUI group.

    I heard not long ago that the TUI group were organising the financing for a large aircraft order.
    What would this include then? My speculations are as follows then:

    - B737 Classics with B737NGs
    - B767s with B787s

    Would the Fokkers and the B757s along the line get replaced, and what by?

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    The current collective TUI fleet doesn't hold out much hope for a future Airbus order, does it?

    And no B737 later than the -200 series can rightly be called a "Classic".
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    Quote Originally Posted by wozza
    What would this include then? My speculations are as follows then:

    - B737 Classics with B737NGs
    - B767s with B787s

    Would the Fokkers and the B757s along the line get replaced, and what by?

    Wozza
    I would expect 787's to replace both the 75' and 76'. I don't think the Fokkers will be that permanent.

    I think we will see an order for 737's (Either the -800 or the new -900 extended range version that Excel have gone for), and two different variant of 787.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wozza
    What would this include then? My speculations are as follows then:

    - B737 Classics with B737NGs
    - B767s with B787s

    Would the Fokkers and the B757s along the line get replaced, and what by?

    Wozza
    I'm not sure what will be order if indeed what I'm hearing has any truth to it.

    One can't rule out Airbus penchant for persuading 737 operators to go the way of the A320. And if they manage that with TUI, then their foot is in the door to peddle the A350 in whichever form the finaly decide to make it.

    The 787 has no real relation to the 767 in terms of parts, pilots, maintenance, engines, etc. It has no more advantage that the A350 in these regards. However, its trump card right now is its economics (Yes, projected! for you pedants )

    All in all, if the TUI group makes a joint order for all its sibsiduary airlines... theres no telling which way they'll go. Though personaly I do see more 737NGs, particularly the new 737-900ER to replace the 757s, and 787s.
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    I think Sandy's right - TUI are a big Boeing customer so Boeing will be doing some big discounts to keep them. It would be a huge triumph for Airbus to get this order, but Boeing will pull out all the stops to keep it.

    Just can't see an A320 in Thomsonfly colours myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBARULES
    I would expect 787's to replace both the 75' and 76'. I don't think the Fokkers will be that permanent.

    I think we will see an order for 737's (Either the -800 or the new -900 extended range version that Excel have gone for), and two different variant of 787.

    What Fokkers they only have one OO-TUF And are LOT getting the 787?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manston Airport
    What Fokkers they only have one OO-TUF And are LOT getting the 787?

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    Yup, LOT are getting 7 B787-8 with an option for 7 787-9

    For delivery in 2008.

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    It has already been mentioned that they have ordered it, but First Choice are set to be the launch customer for the 787 in Europe!

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    with regards to Tui and 737NGs

    Hapagfly have planty of wingletted 737-800's, ao why would they want to replace those, they're realtively new... So the likelyhood is surely more of the same, for easy interchange between the group?

    No replacements lined up for the 747-400's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud_9
    It has already been mentioned that they have ordered it, but First Choice are set to be the launch customer for the 787 in Europe!
    Yes, but LOT will recieve their aircraft first.

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    Icelandair is having a few 787's. I think they have got 3 firm orders with 5 options, but I can't be bothered to check.
    Last edited by Grey Area; 26th May 2006 at 22:52. Reason: Language!
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