[Accident Report] PLAAF accident in March 2005 in PRC

[J-20 Hotdog]

6 May 2010:
Fighter-trainer. Possibly JJ-7.
Ji Nan AF, PLAAF, based at Ji Nan, Shan Dong Province.
Crashed.

Front-seater: Captain FENG Si Guang (28). Third class pilot.
In June 2005, joined the PLAAF Academy.
In June 2007, graduated at the PLAAF 3rd Aviation School.

Wife is TIAN Wen Jun. Got their marriage certificate in August 2009, but hadn't performed wedding ceremony.

Rear-seater: ZHANG De Shan. Squadron commander.

At night, during night training, after the second touch-and-go, at 9:30 PM and 50 m AGL, engine flamed out. Zhang reported the flame-out to the tower.
The tower commander = division chief of staff SHEN Shu Fan told the pilots to eject.
Ahead of them was a brightly lit night market in a residential area, near Ji Nan City. Both pushed their control sticks, and turned away the plane. AOA dropped from +12.3 degrees to -9.8 degrees; flight data recorder recorded control sticks were pushed forwards 44 mm.
Then, they ejected. Zhang successfully ejected 1.1 sec before Feng.
Feng ejected at 32 m and AOA -16 degrees, his chute didn't open, and bought the farm. Crash site was 230 m from residential area with about 4,000 residents.

On 7 May 2010, Feng was posthumously awarded the title of "Revolution Martyr". His funeral ceremony was at his home city Liao Cheng, Shan Dong Province, on 12 May 2010.

Apparently, Zhang's blog, with more gory details:
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_67f9a...ioil.html?tj=1

Photos:
http://www.takungpao.com.hk/news/10/...01-1260785.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-0...t_13525957.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-0...13525957_1.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-0...13525957_2.htm
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-0...t_13526088.htm

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/100520/4/i4qz.html
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...0/5/2605u.html

they should learn from all those indian crashes and adopt a two engine design for training. L-15, no FTC-2000

[Don Chan]

24 May 2010:
Fighter.
Guang Zhou AF, PLAAF.
Emergency landed.

Pilot was LUO Xian Min.

Unspecified domestically produced new type fighter.
11:19 AM, during conversion training, his second sortie of the day, while manoeuvring, warnings as voice in headphones and on displays, about engine rev speed was dropping.
He was 85 klicks from home base, throttled back to 84.9%, and reported to the tower.
The tower deputy commander = division commander LI Ke Qiang ordered him to maintain throttle at under 85%, and RTB for emergency landing.
The tower ordered other fighters to climb and fly levelly, and diverted civilian flights.
11:25 AM, seven klicks from home base, readied to land.
11:26 AM, safely landed.

Cause of engine rev speed drop was fragments or powders in lubricants.

On 27 May 2010, Luo was awarded a third class merit.

http://www.hkcd.com.hk/content/2010-...nt_2532110.htm
http://www.takungpao.com.hk/news/10/...01-1264500.htm

[Don Chan]

27 May 2010:
Unspecified domestically produced new type jet fighter with two engines.
Nan Jing AF, PLAAF, based at an AB in Jiang Nan area (area south of Chang Jiang River).
Emergency landed.

Pilot was YE Jiang. Regiment commander. 2,000+ hours. Deputy commander of the mission.

1 PM, took off for training.
2:36 PM, Ye was flying a low-altitude course.
2:37:19 PM, at 16 m AGL, right engine flamed out. He throttled right engine to idle, and relied on left engine to control altitude and speed.
Pitching up, slipping or yawing, and decelerating. Couldn't accelerate, couldn't afterburn, engine nozzle couldn't enlrage, hydraulics pressuring dropping, low altitude, &c. If forced afterburn, left engne may flame out. Shouldn't pitch up, or may stall.
Ahead was residential area, and left was Qun Shan Mountain. Decided to turn right and towards some water.
(Doesn't say lake, river, or sea?)

2:38:04 PM, at 100 m AGL, flew level, and accelerated to 370 km/h. Tower advised: maintain 100 m AGL, at 400 km/h.

2:39:48 PM, climbed to 980 m, and ordered to emergency land.

2:43:14 PM, climbed to 2,230 m. Still carried plent of fuel, so loitered to waste fuel, tried to prevent heavy landing, and flew into landing course.
2:46:08 PM, main hydraulics pressure gauge was "0". Couldn't brake or extend flaps. Weight was 2,000 kg more than normal landing weight, and 400 kg more than max landing weight.
Heaving landing may blow out tires, damage landing gear, or... accidentally affect the fuel tanks.

2:47 PM, guided by tower commander LI Guo Hua, touched down. Shut down left engine, deployed drag chute, pulled emergency brake handle three times, continuously corrected heading, and stopped 100 m from end of runway, by 2:50 PM.

Accident investigation claims cause is engine mechanical quality problem: turbine blades broke, and turbine frame cracked.

http://www.takungpao.com.hk/news/10/...01-1268110.htm
http://news.xinmin.cn/rollnews/2010/06/05/5103655.html

[Don Chan]

] 6 May 2010:
] Plane.
] Ji Nan AF, PLAAF, based at Ji Nan, Shan Dong Province.

http://mil.news.sohu.com/20100521/n272259722.shtml

Video. 02:56.
01:11-01:33 is ZHANG De Shan, the GIB (guy in back) who punched out, and survived.
01:53-02:04 and 02:15-02:23 are the wreck at crash site.

(JJ-7?)

[Don Chan]

] 6 May 2010:
] Plane. Possibly JJ-7.

http://mil.news.sohu.com/20101102/n276980678.shtml
http://mil.news.sohu.com/20101102/n276957747.shtml

ZHANG De Shan, nicknamed Da Shan (Big Mountain), who survived the accident, resumes flying, by about 29 October 2010.

After he ejected, he landed on his right foot, and broke his right ankle.

] 16 April 2010:
] H-6.
] Nan Jing military district AF, PLAAF.
] During night training, bird strike.

Photo of accident plane and crew:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2010-0...t_13887287.htm

Will any expert of reading slanted serial numbers, read the slanted serial number on its fuselage?

[Don Chan]

Monday, 27 December 2010:
AS332 L2 Super Puma. B-HRN.
(White fuselage, with orange bottom and tail boom.)

HKGFS (Hong Kong Government Flying Service), based at Hong Kong CLK (Chek Lap Kok, actually pronounced "Chek Lap Gok") IAP, Lantau Island (locally pronounced "Dai Yu San" = "Big Island Mountain"), New Territories, Hong Kong.

About 10:45 AM, during fire fighting mission, while collecting its fifth bucket of water at Shing Mun water reservoir, New Territories, suddenly deployed its floats, and steadily descended onto the surface. Drifted from east to west towards a dam.
Reportedly, right engine malfunctioned. Witnessed by hikers.

Three male crew, wearing life vests, swam out, walked onto the dam, which had a gentle slope, waited for ambulances, and taken to Yan Chai Hospital.

Pilot: Pilot I (Pilot First Class) James SZE Wan Lung (33, SHI Yun Long) has nine years experience, for 3,300 hours, of which 1,900 hours are AS332 L2.
Co-pilot: Cadet Pilot Howie CHUN Tak Yau (25) has two years experience.
Crew: Aircrewman Officer II (Aircrewman Officer Second Class) Ryan LO Yiu Wah (38) has 12 years experience.

The upright helo remained floating, and drifted to the shore near the dam. Divers fastened ropes to the helo, and checked no one was trapped in or under it.
Meanwhile, another HKGFS SAR helo (grey) loitered above the reservoir.

A mountain fire in nearby Shing Mun Country Park, burnt for 13 hours, and was extinguished by 5 AM.

In the afternoon, mechanics checked its engines, and retrieved its flight data recorder. They plan to use one to two days to disassemble some of its heavy parts, such as doors and rotary wings, before another helo hoists it away from the reservoir.

The accident helo is a 2008 Si Chuan Wen Chuan earthquake veteran. Its last overhaul is in September.

(BTW, 27 December 2010 is a public holiday in Hong Kong, as it's the first weekday after Christmas Day. 8D
I awoke to the radio news that police had closed the roads that accessed the reservoir, due to a "sudden incident", which usually means a bank robbery, car crash, fire, or the like.)

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!xPONHX...4&sc=1#yartcmt

Flyboy happened to photo it when it took off at 9:58 AM, a cold morning in Hong Kong.

http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=UTF-8...Reservoir&z=14

Shing Mun Reservoir, Lo Wai, Hong Kong.

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/101227/4/lxu0.html
http://news.wenweipo.com/2010/12/27/IN1012270102.htm

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/101227/4/lxu0.html
http://news.wenweipo.com/2010/12/27/IN1012270102.htm

[Don Chan]

] 22 April 2010:
] J-10.
] Senior Colonel XIE Feng Liang (46). 9th Division commander.

http://www.junshan.gov.cn/news/2010/...1220_2312.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110109/4/m53j.html

2011/01/10:
On 2010/12/20, the official site of the Hu Nan Province, Yue Yang, Jun Shan district government, announced an unveilling ceremony for a memorial monument for Xie, who came from Liang Xin Bao Town in said district, happened on 2010/12/17.
The accident cause was engine malfunction.

[Don Chan]

14 January 2011:
J-8II.
PLAAF or PLAN.
About 9:20 AM, crashed or crash-landed, at a construction site, near Fo Shan AP, Fo Shan, Guang Dong Province.
South side of construction site of Nan Hai Heng Gang section, Gui-Guang high-speed railway, north of Fo Shan AP.

Two pilots climbed out before aircraft caught fire.

10+ fire trucks came to extinguish fire.

Photo:
http://dailynews.sina.com/bg/chn/chn...402163568.html

http://www.881903.com/Page/ZH-TW/new...8&csid=261_341
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110116/3/m95v.html

[Deino]

15 January 2011:
J-8II.
PLAAF or PLAN.
About 9:20 AM, crashed or crash-landed, at a construction site, near Fo Shan AP, Fo Shan, Guang Dong Province.
South side of construction site of Nan Hai Heng Gang section, Gui-Guang high-speed railway, north of Fo Shan AP.

Two pilots climbed out before aircraft caught fire.

10+ fire trucks came to extinguish fire.

Photo:
http://dailynews.sina.com/bg/chn/chn...402163568.html

Two pilots in a J-8II ??? ... then more likely a JJ-7 or a Su-27UBK ... even if the picture looks really more like a J-8. The yellow number however is clearly from the PLAAF.


EDIT: new pictures found ... it's really a J-8 from the 9. Division !


Deino

[Don Chan]

] J-8 from the 9. Division

Thank you, Mister Spock.
IMO, it either failed to take off, or overran the runway while landing.

[Don Chan]

1 December 2009:
Single-seat third-generation jet fighter, possibly J-10 or Su-27.
PLAAF.
Aborted air-to-mud training, and emergency landed with live bomb.

During air-to-mud training, locked-on ground target, pressed pickle button, and display said the live 500 kg bomb didn't leave the rack. Circled around, locked-on ground target, pressed pickle button, and display still said bomb didn't leave the rack.
Aborted training, RTB, and emergency landed with live bomb.

Pilot was HU Bo. Regiment deputy chief of staff.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-01-24/0849629586.html

(Date, possibly 1990s or 2000s):
Single-seat third-generation jet fighter, possibly J-10 or Su-27.
PLAAF.
Aborted sortie, RTB, and emergency landed.

Pilot noticed fuel was being used up faster than expected, declared fuel leak, aborted sortie, RTB, and emergency landed, with only up to two minutes of fuel left.

Pilot was WANG Cheng Ru.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-01-24/0849629586.html

(Date, possibly 1990s or 2000s):
Twin-seat jet fighter, possibly third-generation J-10 or Su-27.
PLAAF.
Aborted sortie, RTB, and emergency landed.

"Engine caught fire", aborted sortie, RTB, and emergency landed, "with engine on fire".

Pilots were regiment deputy political commissar LUO Jian Yu, and group deputy commander LU Wen Qing.

(Personally, I don't know if the engine was actually burning, or only the engine fire warning light had lit up?)

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-01-24/0849629586.html

(Date, possibly 1990s or 2000s):
Twin-seat jet fighter, possibly third-generation J-10 or Su-27.
PLAAF.
Scrambled to intercept a foreign civilian light plane that strayed from its original course, and into Chicom coastal territory.

As the intruder fled towards the sea, the Chicom fighter persuaded it to land. Eventually, when the Chicom fighter dropped some flares as warning, the intruder landed on a dried fish pond.

Chicom pilots were group deputy commander LI Ming Quan, and pilot JIANG Shi Bao.

Intruder pilot was "Colin Border" or "Colin Bordier" (?), a Brit and world ultra-light plane flight competition champion, with (then) 25 years of flight experience.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-01-24/0849629586.html

[Don Chan]

] Monday, 27 December 2010:
] AS332 L2 Super Puma. B-HRN.

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110126/4/mf6g.html
http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110126/18/mf5n.html

2001/01/26:
Turbine of engine #2 apparently oversped, and it automatically shut down, as a normal safety feature.

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_d...=20110127&fc=7

Engine speed link to copter crash

Thursday, January 27, 2011

An engine that was going too fast is most likely to have caused a firefighting helicopter to ditch in Shing Mun Reservoir.

[Don Chan]

24 January 2011:
Transport.
Guang Dong AF, PLAAF, based at a coastal AB in southern China.
Two minutes after take off, engine malfunctioned, and smoke in cabin. Pilot shut down one of two engines, and emergency landed, after seven minutes.

Nine crew.
Pilot was ZHANG Cheng Wei.
Co-pilot was WU Yan Le.
Flight engineer was LU Jun Ren.

13:26, took off. Two minutes after take off, was 10 klicks from AB, at 350 m AGL.
Gas leak-like sound, and white smoke with burnt fuel smell filled the cabin, causing the crew's eyes to weep. Pilot knew cabin pressure was caused by compressing device of engine, and smoke probably caused by engine malfunction.
He decided to close the gas supply switch, open the emergency pressure release switch, told the flight engineer to take a look, and climbed at 8 m/sec.

13:29, at 700 m AGL, left engine rev speed dropped, and lubricant warning light lit up. Flight engineer reported left engine lubricant pressure dropped to 3.5 L/cm^2, the minimum value in the air.
Pilot decided to shut down left engine. If not, abrasion at high temperature could cause engine fire.

Turned around, RTB, and 10.5 klicks from AB, lowered landing gear. Turned left, fought yaw to left, and emergency landed, at 13:35.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2011-0..._121039779.htm

[Don Chan]

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5dec4...7o9n.html?tj=1

(2011-02-15 15:18:27)

Photo(s) of crash site of PLAAF JH-7 that crashed on 2009/07/19.

[Don Chan]

26 February 2011:
Jet fighter.
Nan Jing AF, PLAAF.
About 3:42 PM, at about 10,001 m, during day-to-night training, canopy suddenly slid open by about a fingertip width, or 1 cm. Pilot contacted ATC, declared emergency landing, (gory details skipped) and RTB.

3:51 PM, emergency landed at home base. Reportedly, canopy control switch malfunctioned. (Zzz.)

Pilot was YANG Fan, a group commander with 4,000+ hours experience.

http://mil.news.sohu.com/20110310/n279745603.shtml

[Don Chan]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2011-0..._121242580.htm

Article in Chinese dated 29 March 2011. Interview with PLAAF test pilot HUANG Bing Xin.

http://baike.baidu.com/view/2488914.htm
has Huang's profile and photo.
Born in 1948. In 1964, joined the military.
In 1985, when 31, became test flight regiment commander, until 1995.

He claims:
In 1994, probably during a test flight, a PLA military aircraft disintegarted at 19,600 m. Pilot was killed.

In 1998, during the FBC-1 Fei Bao first flight, or one of its first flight, he managed to emergency land, although engine(s) malfunctioned, the aircraft shook so hard that he couldn't clearly see the gauges, and the shock of the landing loosened 2/3 of the instruments from the instrument panels.

Four years later [in 2002], during another FBC-1 test flight, after the rudder fell off, he managed to emergency land.

(IMO, "The excitement never stops.")

[Don Chan]

27 March 2011:
Aircraft with two pilots.
Ji Nan AF, PLAAF.
In the morning, engine malfunctioned, and crash-landed on a wheat field, in Ma Lan Village, near Lang Xi River, in An Hui Province.

Twp pilots didn't eject, and were OK.
Front seat: ZHUANG Wen Bo.
Back seat: JIANG Wei Jun.
Both are First Class pilots, with 2,000-3,000 flight hours experience.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-04-15/0717642677.html
has a photo at
http://i0.sinaimg.cn/jc/2011-04-15/U...0415091806.jpg

Left is Zhuang. Right is Jiang.

9:00, took off, from an AB in An Hui Province.

9:31, at 800 m AGL, 220 km/h, and 30 klicks from target AB; Jiang noted the tachometer fluctuated up and down by 50 rpm, thought engine may malfunction, and warned Zhuang. Zhuang warned the ground controller.
They continued to scan the other gauges, such as engine temperature and hydraulics pressure.

9:32, Zhuang again reported the aircraft was shaking, and hard to control. Engine whined, and tachometer fluctuated +/- 300 rpm.
Wingman, driven by JIANG Ting and SHI Zhong Wei, saw the accident aircraft was shaking left and right, up and down, and was descending.

9:35, engine stopped, aircraft was descending, and ground controller authorised the pilots to eject.
Zhuang replied they were 28 klicks from the AB, and would emergency land.

9:37, they chose a flat wheat field. Just before touch down, they saw a villager (WANG Dao Cai, 63 man), pulled up and left, and changed the touch down spot. Aircraft climed 2-3 m, glided forwards another 200 m, and missed the villager.
They also missed the optimal touch down spot. Left wing hit a power lines pole, then two poplar trees.

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110414/4/nt0s.html
http://news.ifeng.com/mainland/detai...751657_0.shtml

[Don Chan]

13 April 2011:
PLAAF.
Pilot was XU Shou Tai.

About 5 PM, above or near Liu Jiang County and Xin Cheng County, Liu Zhou City, during ACM training, sh_t happened, and at least one pilot ejected.
Xu landed on forested and rocky terrain, and was bleeding and seriously wounded. 8(

The first local witness to the parachute was lumberjack LAN Shao Jin. After about 10 minutes, Lan found Xu, and Lan phoned the closest fire department and police.
Lan cut some herbs and applied them to Xu's bleeding. Lan then cut some branches, and used the parachute and ropes to make an ad lib stretcher.
About 10 villagers arrived. Vertical distance to the foot of the hill was about 200 m, and they took about 20 minutes to bring down Xu.
Lan also returned Xu's pistol to the military.

By 6 PM, Xin Cheng County People's Hospital ambulance went to near (three klicks from) the landing site.
By 8:30 PM, Xu arrived at the Xin Cheng County People's Hospital. The docs examined him, found his injury was serious, and recommended to transfer him to the better equipped Liu Zhou City People's Hospital.
By 11:15 PM, the ambulance was en route to Liu Zhou City, 170 klicks away.
By 6 AM, the next morning, Xu was out of life-threatening status.

(Again, Chicom press releases are unusually punctual.)

By 28 April, transferred to the PLA Air Force General Hospital in Bei Jing, Xu could begin to walk.

http://big5.chinanews.com:89/sh/2011.../3054520.shtml
http://china.dwnews.com/big5/news/20.../57732978.html

[Don Chan]

13 April 2011:
(Official version.)

J-7.
Guang Zhou AF, PLAAF, based in Guang Zhou military district.
About 4 PM, during training, crashed, near a village, near He Chi City, Guang Xi Province.
Crash site was between Yi Zhou City and Xin Cheng County of Lai Bin City.

Villagers rescued the ejected and wounded pilot.
After the fighter lost control, pilot tried and couldn't recover, ejected late, and parachute didn't fully open. 8(

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/article/110525/4/oid1.html

10 May 2011:
Su-30MKK2.
East Sea Fleet, PLAN.
Pilot was WU An Tao. Group commander.
Navigator was LI Hua Dong.

About 8 PM, during training, during multiple touch-and-go, tower commander = division deputy commander ZHANG Jian saw both engine nozzles had red flames, and suspected bird strikes or FOD to both engines.
Pilots also noticed both engine tachometers and temperatures exceeded normal parameters, and emergency landed.

The CCTV news vid at
http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2011-05-26/1002649113.html
interviewed Wu, who claimed he landed within three minutes after the hits.

Photos:
http://www.chinareviewnews.com/doc/1...ate=0526113041
http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/slide_8_203_8425.html

http://mil.news.sohu.com/20110526/n308584436.shtml
http://news.ifeng.com/mil/2/detail_2...665406_0.shtml

[Don Chan]

] 13 April 2011:

] Pilot was XU Shou Tai.

Xu's accident photos:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2011-0..._121507172.htm
to
http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2011-0...1507172_10.htm

[Don Chan]

18 July 2011:

*RUMOUR*

J-8 x 2.
PLAAF, based at Lin Tao AB, Lin Tao County, Ding Xi City, Gan Su Province.
During landing or take-off, collided, and crashed into farm.

http://the-sun.on.cc/cnt/china_world...bdate=20110719

[Don Chan]

] 7 March 2009:
] J-10.

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5cf56...dr5p.html?tj=1
http://club.mil.news.sina.com.cn/thread-373207-1-1.html

Accident photos.

[Don Chan]

22 August 2011:

* RUMOUR *

* RUMOUR *

BZK-005. Stealth UAV.
PLA General Staff Department, PLA.

Took off from Sha He AP, Bei Jing.
After or during training, crashed into forest, and burnt, near a corn farm, at a village, near Xing Tai, He Bei Province. To be exact, near T-junction of Xu Yang Avenue and national highway 107, Yan Jia Tun Town, Xing Tai County.
No one wounded.
Fire department, Gong An (police), and soldiers came to blockade the crash site, and by same night, recovered the wreck.

http://www.singtao.com/breakingnews/20110825e111305.asp
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20...000093-jij-int
http://news.mingpao.com/20110825/caa1.htm

[Don Chan]

] 18 July 2011:
] * RUMOUR *
] J-8 x 2.

http://club.mil.news.sina.com.cn/thread-390356-1-1.html

Reportedly, photo of crash site of J-7 (not J-8) of Lan Zhou AF, PLAAF.
Two J-7s collided.
One pilot survived; and another didn't.

[Don Chan]

17 August 2011:
AW139.
Bei Jing Municipal Public Security Bureau Air Corps.

http://www.bjgaj.gov.cn/eng/?COLLCC=807844921&

About 9:12 AM, after SAR training, during RTB, crashed into Mi Yun reservoir, 2-3 klicks from shore, near Huang Tu Kan Village, Bu Lao Tun Town, Mi Yun County.

At first, four of five crew missing, then confirmed as KIAs.
DU Zhi Jing, WANG Bo, TANG Guo Qiang, and XING Song Bo.

About 10 AM, the fifth was rescued, albeit wounded (fractures).
LI Jie.
Reportedly, he was thrown out of the helo, and into the water. Soon, taken to the Mi Yun County people's hospital.

Said SAR training was to practise for: in rural counties of Bei Jing, recent heavy rains caused floodings and landslides that trapped and wounded people (hikers, villagers, &c), who'd to be airlifted.

Local witnesses claimed: about 8 AM, while they were working, they saw the helo loitered above the reservoir. They seldom saw heloes, so they gawked at the helo while they worked.
About 9 AM, the helo began to descend, nose-down, flew lower and lower, and crashed into the reservoir. It didn't smoke before the crash, and didn't explode after the crash.
They wanted to rescue the helo crew, but they didn't have any boat, so they phoned the authorities.
About 10 AM, one of the speed boats that came to the crash site, rescued one crew from the water, and sped away.

Two other police heloes came to loiter above the crash site, and departed after tens of minutes, while the surface units searched for the wreck and the other crew.

In the afternoon, despite poor (if any) underwater visibility, divers claimed the helo was upside-down, 13 m below surface level.
They also recovered debris to the pier: doors, helmets, seats, window frames, &c.
By 10 PM, two bodies were recovered.

On 18 August, about noon, the other two bodies were recovered.

On 19 August, about 3 PM, the helo was salvaged. Except broken main rotor blades, the fuselage seemed intact.
About 5 PM, the salvage ship delivered the helo to the main dam, where a crane vehicle awaited.

On 22 August, Bei Jing People's Government authorised to recognise the four crew as "martyrs".
On 25 August, the four crew's funeral ceremony.

The corps had about 10 pilots, who all came from PLA Aviation and PLAAF, with minimum 900+ flight hours.

http://big5.china.com/gate/big5/mili.../16732720.html
http://big5.chinanews.com:89/gn/2011.../3284819.shtml
http://big5.chinanews.com:89/gn/2011.../3271403.shtml

[Don Chan]

Before 8 October 2011:

* RUMOUR *

* RUMOUR *

J-10B. 1034.
PLAAF.
During test flight, crashed, near Yan Liang, Shaan Xi Province.

Pilot didn't ejected, and killed.

http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...8/5/305hx.html

[Deino]

Hmmm Yes that rumour is already out since two days but - at least at the SDF - the currently accepted opinion is that it was nothing but a rumour, since this photo below reportedly shows this prototype 1034 "after" its crash !

I have to admit that proves or disproves nothing but overall it's strange.

Deino

[i.e.]

Hmmm Yes that rumour is already out since two days but - at least at the SDF - the currently accepted opinion is that it was nothing but a rumour, since this photo below reportedly shows this prototype 1034 "after" its crash !

I have to admit that proves or disproves nothing but overall it's strange.

Deino

Some dude wrote a poem and post it on the web.
SOme one else with a very active imagination take that to mean J-10B 1034 crashed.
The guy who wrote the poem completely debunk the rumour.

much ado about nothing.

[Pinko]

Hmmm Yes that rumour is already out since two days but - at least at the SDF - the currently accepted opinion is that it was nothing but a rumour, since this photo below reportedly shows this prototype 1034 "after" its crash !

I have to admit that proves or disproves nothing but overall it's strange.

Deino

The PLAAF has officially come out to deny the rumor:

http://military.people.com.cn/GB/15838887.html

[Deino]

The PLAAF has officially come out to deny the rumor:

http://military.people.com.cn/GB/15838887.html

Yepp .. and here finally a clearer shot of that bird !

Deino