South Korea - ROKAF. Photo Achieve

**Don Chan** · 7th July 2008, 07:24

Can't read/understand Korean (OK, I'm not perfect), so checked non-Korean sites.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...173_26992.html

07-03-2008 18:16

"Scarf for pilots: Fashion designer Andre Kim ties a red neck scarf round Capt. Ha Jeong-mi, the first South Korean female pilot for the KF-16 fighter, during a ceremony in Seoul to designate July 3 as 窶徼he Day of Pilots.窶・"

http://a-odagiri.seesaa.net/article/102091262.html
http://japanese.joins.com/article/ar...php?aid=102027

3 July was Pilots' Day in ROK.
The KF-16 crash on 20 July 2007, involved a ROKAF Captain whose father was also a ROKAF pilot killed in accident in 1984.
After this crash, ROKAF decided to remake the pilot's red scarf, to raise pilots' morale, and requested fashion designer Andre KIM. He agreed and accepted no design fee.

During ceremony with ROKAF REMFs, Korean War ROKAF retired/veteran pilots, and ROKAF active-duty pilots, in Seoul, on 3 July 2008, he presented the first redesigned red scarfs to ROKAF.
The redesigned red scarfs will be distributed to all ROKAF active-duty and Korean War retired/veteran pilots.

] Even though I was interviewed, I'm not in the video.

The vid seems to show more of the JASDF pilot, if only because his flag is more salient on his shoulder, and not because he looks vaguely like Ichiro.

] Mongol, (air defense)

Isn't Outer Mongolia more pro-Russia/pro-USSR, than pro-ROK/pro-USA?

**Don Chan** · 11th July 2008, 07:15

http://english.donga.com/srv/service...=2008071147668
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...1/5/130t3.html

10 July 2008:
F-15K formally joins ROKAF.

**Don Chan** · 22nd July 2008, 14:00

http://whhh.fc2web.com/logs2ch/asiaplus/1171374122.html

Message #587 has a list of ROKAF accidents/crashes, from 1994.05.20 to 2006.06.07, but this message board is in Jap, and although the place names are in Chinese words, I don't know their Korean pronunciations. 8b

Message #211 and #291 have a list of ROKAF F-16/KF-16 accidents/crashes, from 1993.04.08 to 2007.02.13. Same linguistic problem to me. 8(

**fabe** · 22nd July 2008, 21:29

I know it's the modern military aviation forum but are there any good pics of South Korean Mustangs on the web?

**Scooter** · 23rd July 2008, 00:52

The North Korean Air Force would last about two seconds vs the ROKAF. Then its army would be crushed..........and let's no even talk about its Navy!

**Don Chan** · 26th July 2008, 04:23

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...newssetid=1352
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...0&newssetid=82
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...newssetid=1352
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...newssetid=1352
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...0&newssetid=80

Some news photos of the ROKAF red scarf ceremony.

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...9&newssetid=80

ROKAF vs its neighbours?

**Don Chan** · 20th August 2008, 08:45

The first time the F-15K gets out of town, eh, country.

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20...000041-yonh-kr

13 August 2008:
Nellis AFB, Nevada, CONUS.
F-15K, about 20 pilots, and about 60 other personnel, at Red Flag.

**Don Chan** · 30th August 2008, 04:39

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqP1pEASJug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JXlquFC1hU

South Korean TV news videos with CG animations of the infamous "ROKAF F-15K vs manhole cover" accident. 8b
Don't know which version is correct?

**Don Chan** · 9th September 2008, 13:37

**Fedaykin** · 9th September 2008, 13:45

Originally Posted by Scooter

The North Korean Air Force would last about two seconds vs the ROKAF. Then its army would be crushed..........and let's no even talk about its Navy!

In many respects your right but that doesn't change the fact that South Korea's capital is in artillery range of the DMZ. Any initial exchange would be VERY bloody for civilians especially south of the line.

**Don Chan** · 22nd October 2008, 14:20

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...&newssetid=455

9 September 2008:
KF-16B.
19th FW, ROKAF.
ROKAF 60th anniversary.
From what I can figure out from a translation site, she's Professor Lee, probably the first South Korean female astronaut. Flew for about an hour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_So-yeon

YI So Yeon. First South Korean female astronaut.

**Don Chan** · 28th October 2008, 03:44

Can't read/understand Korean (OK, I'm not perfect).

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...0&newssetid=82
http://kr.img.search.yahoo.com/searc...tail&top=frame

ROKAF, 20th FW, first KF-16 female pilot Captain HA Jeong Mi (29) and ROKAF aircraft mechanic Sergeant First Class YI In Deuk (30) were married on 30 August 2008.

(Obviously, will someone who can read Korean, fill in the blanks, and verify their ranks?)

**Don Chan** · 4th November 2008, 12:13

4 November 2008:
Two F-5Es.
8th FW, ROKAF, based at Won Ju AB, Gang Won Do.
About 10:30, during Ho Guk Exercise ("Protect Country Exercise"), while CAS training with ROKA, collided.
First F-5E crashed into a farm, in/near Il Dong Myeon, Po Cheon City, Gyeong Gi Do. 46 klicks north of Seoul.
One pilot ejected. Captain Lee (28).

Second F-5E tail and wing(s) damaged, and RTB, to Won Ju AB.

Each F-5E carried two AIM-9Ls. During the accident, the two F-5Es dropped all four missiles.
One missile recovered from beside wreck.
Another missile recovered from a hill behind a church in a nearby residential area.
Another missile recovered from a farm, 2.5 km from the crash site.
Another missile missing.

10:00, took off at Won Ju AB.
Both F-5Es were flying at 630 km/h, and 500 m apart.
No reported casualty on ground.
All F-5Es grounded.

Reportedly, both pilots have five years of flight experience. Captain Lee has 590 flight hours.
Second pilot has 260 flight hours.

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...4&newssetid=82
has a four-panel comic
http://img.news.yahoo.co.kr/picture/...4_100513_0.jpg
that graphically shows how the accident happened.

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...7&newssetid=80
has a drawing that graphically shows how the accident happened.
The wingman apparently (failed to maintain 500 m separation from the leader, tried to pull up at the last moment, and) rammed the leader from behind.

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...&newssetid=455

After ROKAF Captain Lee ejected, he landed in a nearby hill. Practically not wounded, he walked to a nearby house, and phoned the ROK military.
A ROK military HH-60P SAR helo, already scrambled after Lee's F-5E was "contact lost" about 10:29 AM, went to recover him.

(IMO, this sortie was fortunately a milk run.)

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20...000042-yonh-kr
http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/new...&newssetid=746
http://tw.news.yahoo.com/article/url...4/5/18uu1.html

**Don Chan** · 5th November 2008, 14:37

While yomping through Yahoo! Korea News (and I can't read/understand Korean) for details of the ROKAF F-5E crash on 4 November 2008...

http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/amxnxt/6167.html
http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/donttellcokr/821553.html
http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/ing89898/63300.html
http://kr.blog.yahoo.com/pks13693094/20918.html

Blog articles dated before/on 23 February 2007.
Captain BAK Ji Yeon (28), with (then) 652 flight hours. Jet fighter female pilot of 8th FW, ROKAF.
First ROKAF jet fighter female pilot qualified as flight leader of a four-aircraft flight.
Also, first female graduate of ROKAF academy, first ROKAF jet fighter female pilot, and first ROKAF couple with both spouses are combat pilots.

**santiagorivas** · 19th January 2009, 17:00

Hi, does anyone have any information/ photos about Korean UH-1 helicopters in the Vietnam war? I will appreciate any help on this, as I cannot find anythind.

Best regards

Santiago

**Scooter** · 19th January 2009, 17:29

Originally Posted by santiagorivas

Hi, does anyone have any information/ photos about Korean UH-1 helicopters in the Vietnam war? I will appreciate any help on this, as I cannot find anythind.

Best regards

Santiago

I would assume the Historical part of the forum maybe of more help on that subject than Modern Aviation. Also, you may want to do a google search.....seem like I once came across a good UH-1 Huey Site! Sorry, it was along time go and I don't remember the site's name???

GOOD LUCK

**Birddog19** · 19th January 2009, 19:57

Originally Posted by Scooter

The North Korean Air Force would last about two seconds vs the ROKAF. Then its army would be crushed..........and let's no even talk about its Navy!

You would have said the same thing about North Vietnam and the US in 1964. Never get seduced by conventional wisdom when it comes to warfare. History is replete with examples of smaller and less powerful foes defeating much larger and stronger enemies.

**ante_climax** · 19th January 2009, 20:03

And you must not forget that South Vietnamese government was corrupt and economy was a mess. Not the same with South Korea. And they will be fighting for their country so its really different I would say.

**Birddog19** · 19th January 2009, 20:08

Originally Posted by ante_climax

And you must not forget that South Vietnamese government was corrupt and economy was a mess. Not the same with South Korea. And they will be fighting for their country so its really different I would say.

It was not North Vs the South. It was North vs the Yanks and thier allies which included the South. Also I can assure you that there are many South Koreans who do not want to fight the North.

**ante_climax** · 19th January 2009, 20:13

They probably don't want to add to the humanitarian crisis there. The condition is not the same in korea. And the yanks did fight a Korean war under UN banner, which but for Chinese intervention would have been a total victory. Clearly the South Koreans can handle the Northies pretty easily, the Chinese well thats another issue altogether.

**Scooter** · 19th January 2009, 21:30

Originally Posted by Birddog19

You would have said the same thing about North Vietnam and the US in 1964. Never get seduced by conventional wisdom when it comes to warfare. History is replete with examples of smaller and less powerful foes defeating much larger and stronger enemies.

I was of course talking about a conventional war..........

**Scooter** · 19th January 2009, 21:34

Originally Posted by Birddog19

It was not North Vs the South. It was North vs the Yanks and thier allies which included the South. Also I can assure you that there are many South Koreans who do not want to fight the North.

Hardly, it was China and North Korea vs the UN and South Korea......

Also, clearly the South Korean's don't want a war with the North Korea again. Yet, if it was to come the North Koreans will be in for a big surprise........:diablo:

**Birddog19** · 20th January 2009, 01:54

Originally Posted by Scooter

Hardly, it was China and North Korea vs the UN and South Korea......

Also, clearly the South Korean's don't want a war with the North Korea again. Yet, if it was to come the North Koreans will be in for a big surprise........:diablo:

I was talking about Vietnam and not Korea where Yanks and their allies were squarely defeated by bunch of skinny men and women in pajamas and sandals made out of recycled tires. Korea was a draw.

Don't underestimate the North Koreans. A few preemptive missile strikes on key southern airfields and other strategic locations can very quickly equalize things. I am not saying that North Koreans will win but don't write them off as you are doing.

**Scooter** · 20th January 2009, 02:45

Originally Posted by Birddog19

I was talking about Vietnam and not Korea where Yanks and their allies were squarely defeated by bunch of skinny men and women in pajamas and sandals made out of recycled tires. Korea was a draw.

Don't underestimate the North Koreans. A few preemptive missile strikes on key southern airfields and other strategic locations can very quickly equalize things. I am not saying that North Koreans will win but don't write them off as you are doing.

The US lost Vietnam because of the lack of Political will not from a Military Loss. As the public grew tired on the high causalities and the support of a corrupt South Vietnamese Goverment.

Clearly, the US and its Allies didn't loose because of North Vietnams Superior Technology or Military Tactics. Regardless, I am not going to get into any flame wars over the subject. The topic is the ROKAF (i.e. South Korean Air Force) not the politics of the Vietnam War.

**ante_climax** · 20th January 2009, 12:16

Originally Posted by Scooter

The US lost Vietnam because of the lack of Political will not from a Military Loss. As the public grew tired on the high causalities and the support of a corrupt South Vietnamese Goverment.

Clearly, the US and its Allies didn't loose because of North Vietnams Superior Technology or Military Tactics. Regardless, I am not going to get into any flame wars over the subject. The topic is the ROKAF (i.e. South Korean Air Force) not the politics of the Vietnam War.

True this and the propaganda war was lost first. Troops those were drafted in were more eager to survive and go home rather than win the war.

**Birddog19** · 20th January 2009, 13:27

Originally Posted by Scooter

The US lost Vietnam because of the lack of Political will not from a Military Loss. As the public grew tired on the high causalities and the support of a corrupt South Vietnamese Goverment.

Clearly, the US and its Allies didn't loose because of North Vietnams Superior Technology or Military Tactics. Regardless, I am not going to get into any flame wars over the subject. The topic is the ROKAF (i.e. South Korean Air Force) not the politics of the Vietnam War.

Lack of political will to sustain a war until the objectives are met is defeat. Your statement, in fact, supports my point of view. The American walked away because the casualty rate become unbearable for them and the casulaty rate became unbearable because of North Vietnamese military tactics which implies that the North had better tactics which helped them achieve their objectives whereas the Americans failed in thier objectives. This topic is very much related to the Koreas and ROKAF as we are talking about military strategy and to your statement dismissing the North Korean threat based on very superficial understanding of military matters. You cannot exclude politics from war. War is extension of politics and ultimately all wars have political objectives.

**KJlost** · 20th January 2009, 22:14

Originally Posted by Birddog19

It was not North Vs the South. It was North vs the Yanks and thier allies which included the South. Also I can assure you that there are many South Koreans who do not want to fight the North.

Most people would not want to attack North Korea, but that's completely different from not wanting to fight at all. We have no qualms about defending ourselves against a North Korean aggression. Total pacifists, like in most other countries, are few and far in between. South has much to lose from a war--which is why we will violently lash out against anyone who tries to take it away. North Korea is no different.

**Scooter** · 21st January 2009, 01:42

Originally Posted by KJlost

Most people would not want to attack North Korea, but that's completely different from not wanting to fight at all. We have no qualms about defending ourselves against a North Korean aggression. Total pacifists, like in most other countries, are few and far in between. South has much to lose from a war--which is why we will violently lash out against anyone who tries to take it away. North Korea is no different.

My whole point was not that the South Korean Forces would attack the North. Just that South Korean has a very capable Military and it would be the Norths doom if they underestimated it.........

**KJlost** · 21st January 2009, 04:33

...and I don't disagree with you?

The only point I agree with the other person is that it would be folly to underestimate North Korean military, but we aren't doing that (if you bother to follow South Korean military build-up programs), so that whole point is moot.

Trying to compare the entire Vietnam war to Korean peninsula is just stupid in my opinion. We don't have an armed, hostile populace. Well, we don't have an armed populace period, so aside from few commando raids, the entire South Korea rear is relatively safe. Neither is our government and military as corrupt as South Vietnam, and we've had 50+ years to prepare for a war with the North.

**ante_climax** · 21st January 2009, 07:03

it would be folly to underestimate North Korean military

True in the sense that you should be wary of Chinese assets being passed over.

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