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    Female Aviators

    This appeared last friday in the Israeli daily Haaretz. I, for one, can't imagine why such a thing could take place, but then I'm an air force nut. I would appreciate any comments on the subject, mainly from the female members. Has anything similiar happened in other air forces?


    Female interest in pilots courses is losing altitude
    By Amnon Barzilai

    The number of women interested in participating in the Israel Air Force's pilots course is steadily dropping, according to figures collated at the air force flying school in Hatzerim.

    Ever since the gates of the school were opened to female candidates, some 12 courses ago, 107 budding female aviators have participated in the training. Of these, just one completed the course to become a fighter pilot. Three other women completed the navigation part of the course, and there is one women at an advanced stage of the current fighter pilot course.

    The IAF decided at the start of this year to increase the number of women candidates in its pilots courses. Since January this year, the IDF's enlistment administration has contacted all the female inductees who met the preliminary criteria (including psychometric results and personal ability tests) to try out for flying school. This policy is intended to increase the number of female inductees who are candidates for the pilots courses.

    In practice, however, the trend is very different, with the number of women interested in applying for the course dropping.

    The commander of the air force's flying school, Colonel Adi Shaham, said this week that he believed the reason for the decline was a sharp drop in motivation among female inductees. The top brass in the IAF, however, believe that the database of information gathered since women began to participate in the pilots courses in not comprehensive enough to facilitate a thorough study of the reasons for this lack of motivation. This, they say, is because the number of women applying for the pilots course is very low, and any minor change in the trends would have a disproportionate influence on the overall figures.

    Following a preliminary look at the figures, the IAF has put forward several possible explanations. First, they say, the trend that was started in the 1990s, whereby courses that had previously been the sole domain of male soldiers were opened to women, has run its natural course. At first, this trend created a wave of interest and enthusiasm, but the feeling now is that this initial appeal has worn off



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    http://www.telegraphindia.com/106031...ry_5954957.asp

    "Wind blows for fighter girls"

    Saturday, March 11, 2006
    SUJAN DUTTA

    Lately in Bangalore, Yelahanka and Dundigal: Women in the Indian Air Force have created a gender issue for the government with nearly half the girls in training performing consistently better than the men but still being barred from flying combat aircraft.
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    Quote Originally Posted by skythe
    In practice, however, the trend is very different, with the number of women interested in applying for the course dropping.

    The commander of the air force's flying school, Colonel Adi Shaham, said this week that he believed the reason for the decline was a sharp drop in motivation among female inductees.
    So they're not applying because they don't want to? Not much of an explanation ...

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    IDFAF female fighter pilots

    Hi guys.
    I have the IMAX DVD "Fighter Pilot- Operation Red Flag". The camera pans the flightline with close-ups of the pilots getting into their jets. At this particular Red Flag a number of Israeli F16s took part and a female pilot can been seen strapping herself into a F16 D. Also, female pilot flew a F15 C at this particular event. Women still can't park though. :diablo:

    Get this DVD! The footage is magnificent. There is a close-up of a couple of Strike Eagles in formation and one by one they peel off and away from the formation- fantastic! A10, F16, Luftwaffe Tornado, C17, MH60- they're all there. Also the synthetic visualisation of the DACT sessions is well displayed.

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    http://www.china.com.cn/chinese/junshi/1132966.htm

    Pakistan AF. Female pilots.
    Article dated 23 February 2006. With photos.
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

    http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-databas...irforce/ROKAF/

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    Thumbs up

    B-17. WWII.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4861666.stm

    "Pakistan gets women combat pilots"

    Last Updated: Thursday, 30 March 2006, 16:16 GMT 17:16 UK
    By Zaffar Abbas
    BBC News, Islamabad

    The women had to go through the gruelling three-year training

    The Pakistani Air Force (PAF) has inducted four women as fighter pilots for the first time.
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

    http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-databas...irforce/ROKAF/

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    Thumbs up Babewatch

    http://www.hiromiyokoyama.com/nana.html
    reported:

    "After WWII, first female Japanese jet aircraft pilot: Grandmother Yokoyama Hideko"

    Born in Taishou 8. Active girl practised fencing, Juudou (martial arts), Kendou (sword).
    16 years old, supported by family, and achieved amphibious aircraft and second-class aircraft licenses. Later, achieved aerobatic and instrument flight licenses.

    After WWII, all before-WWII pilot licenses cancelled. All must re-achieve pilot licenses by US military standards.

    1953, Hideko was first female Japanese to achieve pilot license by US military standards
    1955, husband operated flight company.
    1956, invited by Johnson AFB, Dasaitama Prefecture, first female Japanese to fly military jet aircraft.
    Later, invited by JASDF, flew F-104.

    Did not like to be called Obaachan (Grandmother) by grandchildren, so they called her Nana (Seven).

    Writer of this Website is Hideko's granddaughter, Yokoyama Hiromi, a physics lecturer and researcher, currently (from 2007 April) at Toukyou University.
    http://www.hiromiyokoyama.com/hello.html
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    Smile

    http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news...le_11400.shtml

    "Spain's first woman fighter pilot is awarded her wings"

    By m.p - Jul 10, 2007 - 7:44 PM

    The new Lieutenant was presented with her wings by the King of Spain on Tuesday
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    Question

    http://www.alamogordonews.com/news/ci_8201550

    "German fighter gets first woman pilot"

    Article Launched: 02/08/2008 12:00:00 AM MST
    Alamogordo Daily News
    By Laura London, Staff Writer

    The first-ever woman to pilot a German air force Tornado fighter plane has graduated from the German Air Force Flying Training Center at Holloman Air Force Base.

    [Any photo?] 8D
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    I was just wondering if ANY members of this forum are female?

    (at least the modern military aviation forum)
    As Theodore Roosevelt said:
    "Talk softly, but carry a big stick"

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    http://www.asianjournal.com/galing-p...es-flight.html

    "Monessa Catuncan: A Filipina takes flight"

    Saturday, 25 October 2008 12:11 Billy Dela Cruz/AJPress

    UNITED States Air Force F-16 fighter pilot Monessa Catuncan doesn’t just maneuver an aircraft whenever she’s on air—she also carries the Philippine flag and the pride of the country it represents and the people in it.

    http://forum.dtmonline.com/leo/cgi-b...um=5&topic=149

    Article dated 3 January 2007.
    Pilot course classmates Lieutenant GU Yu Xin and Lieutenant ZHUANG Hui Qing were the only two ROCN S-2T female pilots.

    Zhuang had 300 flight hours after she flew S-2T for two years.
    Gu and Zhuang were 133rd Squadron, 1st Aviation Group, Naval Aviation Command, ROCN.

    http://tt.mop.com/club/read_1388497.html

    Photos of ROC military female pilots and crew members.
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    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    Nice to see the rest of the world catching up. IIRC the first all female RAF crew was in the early 90s, and we've had FJ chapesses for well over a decade!

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    In the event of a problem pull the handle,pray,and hope the silk isnt made in china !

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    I just want to say.......

    I really like this photo and her sense of humor



    cheers,

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    http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2009-0...t_11336914.htm
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    http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2009-0...11336914_2.htm

    12" figures of UK soldiers.
    I don't recognise the woman's uniform. Para-medic?
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Chan View Post
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2009-0...t_11336914.htm
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    12" figures of UK soldiers.
    I don't recognise the woman's uniform. Para-medic?
    Royal Air Force Falcons Parachute Display Team.

    http://www.raf.mod.uk/falcons/theteam/

    http://www.raf.mod.uk/falcons/thetea...teamleader.cfm

    TJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Chan View Post
    B-17. WWII.
    Non combat duties back in WW2 for those female crews.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_A...Service_Pilots

    TJ

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    Don't forget, during WWII the ATA women pilots were flying Lancaster bombers, with at most only a cadet to help, also Spitfires and all other fighters, bombers, flying boats, etc., the famous picture was of Lettice Curtis climbing down a ladder from a Lancaster, having just delivered it solo to an operational squadron. Lettice is still alive and in her nineties!!.

    Cheers Brian Doherty.

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/lif...cle6344981.ece

    "The Top Gun girl and the Tornado fast jet"

    Squadron Leader Elle Hillard is a woman in a man’s world as she flies her Tornado bomber into combat

    May 23, 2009
    From The Times
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...r-panties.html

    "RAF girls fly by the seat of their panties"

    Published: 18 Jun 2009
    By JOHN KAY
    Chief Reporter

    TOP Guns have amassed a treasure trove of knickers - paid by RAF girls as "fares" for a ride in a jet.

    A whole wall of the Tornado pilots' bar is covered with the framed panties - with more hanging from the ceiling.

    (Sexism in action, IMO.)
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    Captain Jammie Jamieson is the first female F-22 Raptor pilot.

    3rd Wing
    525th Fighter Squadron "Bulldogs"

    F-22 Blk 30 AK 06-122

    Jammie's hubby must be so proud of her!
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    Lockheed Martin Boeing F-22 Raptor: World's largest distributor of Sukhoi parts!!!

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    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...e-c5975bde55d2
    http://www.ajc.com/services/content/...eobit0629.html

    "Gone West: Annie 'Belle' Lawrence"

    Tue, 30 Jun '09

    Pilot, Mechanic, Pioneering Aviatrix

    Annie Lawrence learned to fly before she learned to drive a car. Airplanes often flew low over her grandparents farm on final approach to a nearby dirt strip, which she said inspired her to pursue a career in aviation at a time when the field was almost completely dominated by men. And according to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, she passed away Wednesday at the age of 84.

    http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/20...pilots_062809/
    news/2009/06/ap_wasp_pilots_062809

    "Recognition near for WWII-era WASP pilots"

    Posted : Sunday Jun 28, 2009 10:10:03 EDT
    By Juana Summers - Austin (Texas) American-Statesman

    AUSTIN, Texas — Susie Bain found her place in the sky when she was 21.

    The Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor, and Bain had left college because it was too expensive. She enrolled in clerical school, but when a friend told her about a chance to fly as one of the Women Airforce Service Pilots, she signed up.

    http://www.ttv.com.tw/news/tdcm/view...p?news=0251142

    B&W vid dated 1973/04/15.

    "USN trains female pilots"

    (Yes, very blurry, and can't see sh_t.)
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    Probably old news:

    http://www.db24h.com/blog/483/viewspace-277
    http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/camokenny...7706&l=a&fid=5

    Czech Air Force JAS-39D 9244 in the 2009 Czech Air Force calendar.
    A lot of humans are blocking the views though. 8(

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090716/...female_pilot_2

    "First female presidential helo pilot finishes tour"

    By DARLENE SUPERVILLE, Associated Press Writer Darlene Superville, Associated Press Writer – Thu Jul 16, 2:48 pm ET

    WASHINGTON – More history was made at the White House on Thursday when President Barack Obama climbed aboard his helicopter: An all-female crew was waiting to take him to Andrews Air Force Base.
    Last edited by Don Chan; 14th August 2009 at 06:25.
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

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    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/as...fighter.pilot/

    "Pakistan's female fighter pilots break down barriers"

    September 14, 2009 -- Updated 1939 GMT (0339 HKT)

    * Story Highlights
    * Ambreen Gul is one of seven women trained to fly F-7 supersonic fighter jet
    * To become a Pakistani fighter pilot takes three years of training
    * Some female pilots wear hijabs, others go without the Muslim headdress

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/mil/2009-0...t_12032598.htm
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    Photos of Chicom fighter female pilots.

    (No, zipped up flight suit, plus helmet with visor down, aren't very fascinating, IMO. (And no, I don't have much of what one would call "a sense of humour".))
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

    http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-databas...irforce/ROKAF/

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    http://www.centaf.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123175974

    "Female advisor invades Iraqi air space"

    Posted 11/4/2009 Updated 11/4/2009

    CAMP TAJI, Iraq -- Air Force Capt. Kacey Grannis, 721st Air Expeditionary Advisory Squadron Mi-17 pilot, briefs an Iraqi air force pilot prior to a helicopter mission Oct. 30, 2009. U.S. Air Force instructor pilots assigned to the 721st AEAS train, advise and assist Iraqi helicopter pilots around the clock to develop their own air force. Captain Grannis is deployed from Andrews Air Force Base, Md., and hails from Sturgis, S.D. (U.S. Air Force photo/Tech. Sgt. Johnny L. Saldivar)
    Republic of Korea Air Force KF-16 missing photographs

    http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-databas...irforce/ROKAF/

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