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    Mirage 2000 family

    The Mirage 2000 is Frances answer to the F-16. The Mirage 2000 has seen action from the Aegean (Mirage 2000EG) to Afghanistan (Mirage 2000D). It is regarded in many ways the equal and some ways better then the F-16A/C. The current Mirage 2000 uses systems from the Rafale and is a threat for any operational fighter in the world. It's used in recce, air defense, escort, strike, anti shipping, SEAD and EW roles by it's users. Plus it’s the best looking fighter in the world.

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    France (C/D/K/5), Taiwan (5), Peru (E), UAE (E/9), India (E), Qatar (5), Greece (E/5), Egypt (E),

    Radars in use.....
    RDY-2 (Mirage 2000-5 Mk.2/2000-9)
    RDY (Mirage 2000-5)
    RDM (Mirage 2000E)
    RDI (Mirage 2000C)
    Antilope 5 (Mirage 2000D/K)

    AAMs it has been cleared for...
    MICA EM/IR
    Super 530F/D
    R-27R
    R-550 Mk.1/2
    R-73E
    AIM-9L

    PGMs it has been cleared for......
    ASMP
    SCALP EG
    Black Shaheen
    APACHE
    Exocet
    ARMAT
    AS-30L
    Laser Guided Bombs (US, Israeli, French)

    Dumb weapons it can use.....
    Beluga cluster dispenser
    Matra F-1-36 rocket launcher
    Type 100-6 rocket launcher
    Mk 80 family bombs
    SAMP GP bombs
    Durandel anti runway weapon

    Any thoughts?

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    Mirage 2000EP (Peru).................

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    Mirage 2000-5EI (Taiwan)..........

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    Another Mirage 2000EP armed with Israeli made laser guided bombs.........

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    Mirage 2000EGM (Greece).........

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    The Mirage 2000 is Frances answer to the F-16. The Mirage 2000 has seen action from the Aegean (Mirage 2000EG) to Afghanistan (Mirage 2000D). It is regarded in many ways the equal and some ways better then the F-16A/C. The current Mirage 2000 uses systems from the Rafale and is a threat for any operational fighter in the world. It's used in recce, air defense, escort, strike, anti shipping, SEAD and EW roles by it's users. Plus it’s the best looking fighter in the world.

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    Agree with you there. Its a damned good aircraft and its never given the respect and credit it deserves. That Taiwan bought it inspite of the F-16 and Americian pressure speaks volumes of its capabilities. Even the IAF pilots praise the capabilities of the Mirage 2000's in the Indian Airforce.

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    Its perfectly flat fuselage is quilte remarkable. and give very good wing area.

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    True.

    Maybe our Greek freinds can shine some light on thier Mirage 2000EGMs ending the F-16s perfect streak...



    Heres one from India flying with a MiG-21bis over the Kargil........

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    Hi Troung,

    From where did you get that IAF picture !?! Never seen it before!


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    I forget I thinkit was off an Indian website or something a few months ago....


    Mirage 2000-5 with the Exocet............

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    Just to nitpick

    Egypt doesn't deploy the dash 5 to my knowledge
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    French Mirage 2000C.........

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    "Egypt doesn't deploy the dash 5 to my knowledge"

    I know they use the Mirage 2000EM/BM......

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    OOPS

    Sorry. I thought you had Egypt listed as a dash 5 user. My bad..
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    Mirage 2000-D over Afghanistan

    http://www.pegase-airshow.com/pictur...&id=333&size=m

    http://www.pegase-airshow.com/pictur...&id=335&size=m


    Mirage 2000-C - Tiger meet 2003




    Mirage 2000C



    all my 2000 pics here :

    http://www.pegase-airshow.com/search.php?Family=4

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    The Mirage, all of them, are beautiful. From the Mirage III to 5, Kfir-2000 and Cheetah. Of course, the Mirage 2000 is the best looking and performing of all of them.
    But there is one thing bad in all of the Mirages. Because of the shape of the fuselage, it is hard to their pilots to see behind them, and it's very important in dogfights.

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    Can someone tell me how to visually differentiate between a base Mirage 2000 and Mirage 2000-5????

    Thanks.

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    Mirage 2000-5



    easy to differentiate the mirage 2000-5 and Mirage 2000C. there is no pitot on the cone on the 2000-5

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    Thanks Franck.

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    Here's a PA M2K EGM during DACT over the Psathoura Range in Macedonia. The photo was taken by F-5A pilot Captain Nick Karatzides.
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    Hi,
    About Ending F-16s winning streak....well this HUD video shows ..Mirage 2000 is quite capable..got from i don`t know where....EPA Mirage 2000 eqating up THK......

    Enjoy

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    MiG_Master, this photo was officially released by 331 Mira to Dimitris Stergiou and was taken in the second half of 2000. As for who broke the "Lawn Dart's" record, actually it was a 342 Mira F.1CG on 8 February 1995...

    The 'official' reason for the crash was Lt.Col.Muftafa Yildirim's neglect to "...switch the fuel feed from the wingtanks..."


    http://www.hri.org/news/greek/ana/19...-09.ana.html#3

    More on this can be found at acig.org

    Here's an exocet armed M2K EGM during certification trials in Merignac:



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    Happy little platform isn't it? Would quite like to see Hellenic Mirage-2000-5's cleared for Brimstone after 2010, assuming they're still in service long enough to make it practical. Also curious to know if the 80km ramjet Meteor AAM would be making an appearance on French Mirage-2000's and exports.

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    Here's a PA M2K EGM during DACT over the Psathoura Range in Macedonia. The photo was taken by F-5A pilot Captain Nick Karatzides.
    A clean M2000 with just two Magics...That's a nasty configuration Fantasma... It gives the jet the full 9g capability and it's a very difficult plane to catch...

    This particular excercise is a 2v1 and I'd bet the 2 jets were old F-5As training on how to gang up and beat a single super maneuvrable electric jet like this..

    As to the F-16s combat record, well surprisingly (or perhaps not ) the first loss it suffered was the Feb'95 case you mentioned against 334Sqn Mirage F1s...The area the pilot ditched the F-16 (a few nm S/SE of Rhodes) was very close to the engagement area, so he was busy with something else while forgetting to feed fuel to his jet...

    The second case 'unofficial' also...is of course the 8 Oct '96 case with a weapons kill(Magic 2 shot) of an F-16D by a Mirage 2000.

    Now of course that is so, unless there have been a few unconfirmed as yet Israeli F-16A losses in the Bekaa valley in 1982...

    Officially therefore LM could still claim a X:0 kill ratio for the F-16, but the truth is out there!
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    F-16 Record

    Firing a missile to an unarmed F-16D in "Peace Time" can not be called kill but can be called "murder" only. Why did Greek pilot fire that missile even against the orders still a mistery. But one thing is very clear F-16D got behind Greek Mirage-2000 3 times before the shooting. After loosing his "six" 3 times, Greek pilot fired that missile and killed the Captain Nail Erdogan who was an instructor pilot. If there was a war between Greece and Turkey, then Captain Erdogan could have killed Greek Mirage-2000 3 times but no body expected a crazy Greek pilot will fire a missile after loosing the dogfights in a peace time in an usual encounter over the Aegean. 2 days later, a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed over the aegean and pilot is killed. Official Greek explanation is technical problems.

    With the same logic, we can also call GreekMirage-2000 and F-16 loses as kills over the Aegean considering the fact that most of the accidents related to intercepting THK fighters, credit should go to THK by forcing HAF to intercept every single flight over the aegean. Of course I dont support this idea to call every accident as a kill. In a real war every thing will be different both sides know this.
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    F-16 picture

    MIg_MAster,

    Do not belive every picture you see as proof of something. THK F-16s never go to Aegean without their underwing 370 gallon drop tanks. In that picture, F-16 has no drop tanks under the wings. My guess is that F-16 belongs to HAF and taken during DACT exercises.

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    Another Mirage 2000-5EI from Taiwan................

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    Tasdan,

    welcome back! Good to see you in your glorious, old form again.

    Clearly the M2000 is a much inferior jet to the F-16 as the pics below suggest...(note: the F-16s below are not to be referred to as Turkish, it embarasses tasdan!)



    Unfortunately the kill ratio worldwide is 1:0 in the Mirage's favour, somehow! Erdogan was dead within seconds of the engagement starting. Read 'Krama' not hurriyet... After all, all Turkey has to go by is the krama version. How's the trial going by the way? Turkey getting any money?

    How do you know Erdogan had the M2000's six? Mustafa Akman was not only cut off 5nm AWAY from the engagement but the only thing he saw of Erdogan's jet was when it was going down in flames...

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    A kill is a kill. The first F-16 kill was on a Syrian Mi-8, at least an F-16D can fight back or run.

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    Re: F-16 Record

    Originally posted by Sahin
    Firing a missile to an unarmed F-16D in "Peace Time" can not be called kill but can be called "murder" only. Why did Greek pilot fire that missile even against the orders still a mistery. But one thing is very clear F-16D got behind Greek Mirage-2000 3 times before the shooting. After loosing his "six" 3 times, Greek pilot fired that missile and killed the Captain Nail Erdogan who was an instructor pilot. If there was a war between Greece and Turkey, then Captain Erdogan could have killed Greek Mirage-2000 3 times but no body expected a crazy Greek pilot will fire a missile after loosing the dogfights in a peace time in an usual encounter over the Aegean. 2 days later, a Greek Mirage-2000 crashed over the aegean and pilot is killed. Official Greek explanation is technical problems.

    With the same logic, we can also call GreekMirage-2000 and F-16 loses as kills over the Aegean considering the fact that most of the accidents related to intercepting THK fighters, credit should go to THK by forcing HAF to intercept every single flight over the aegean. Of course I dont support this idea to call every accident as a kill. In a real war every thing will be different both sides know this.


    You werent there you dont know what happened. The wingman didnt mention anything. The only thing he said was that he thought the F16D had fuel probs.He just saw an explosion. He thought that cause he saw the Mirages2000 somehow bewildered. As for the survivor, didnt open his mouth about that sadly incident.


    Better to leave speculations. They never lead to anywhere. If we claim that every airfoce accident is because of an engamenent, then we've lost our mind. The Israeli Air Force had some accidents. If I follow your path of reasoning then the Arabs shoot them down and the Israelis hide the fact. I dont think so at all...

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