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    hey derp
    Russian jets say hi




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    Thanks for proving my point.

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    you can't tell the difference between teal and green
    so I guess I shouldn't be surprised you can't tell the difference between light and dark

    color blind and dyslexic

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    2015:


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    So you are telling me Russian fighters are darker under and brighter topside now..👽 you sure try your best to troll Hottie, but Fail.

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    Tatatatata ....
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    He was my North, my South, my East and West,
    My working week and my Sunday rest,
    My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
    I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

    The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
    Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
    For nothing now can ever come to any good.
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    Wow, great pic.

    The range with drop tanks must be absurd.
    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    is that a photoshop?if not awesome pic and imagine the range

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    any pics of su-35 with ET.I have never seen one.

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    Nope, none..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1
    Wow, great pic.

    The range with drop tanks must be absurd.
    They aren't half messing about, no.

    In this regard it is the J-20 which takes the cake though:

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    ya... it does take the cake.but it still wont make it to Guam and back

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    So you are telling me Russian fighters are darker under and brighter topside now..👽 you sure try your best to troll Hottie, but Fail.
    no derpie.
    but now we know you are color blind, can't spell, and lack logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident
    They aren't half messing about, no. In this regard it is the J-20 which takes the cake though:
    Is it just me or are those bags on the T-50 larger?
    Last edited by MSphere; 15th May 2017 at 22:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    Is it just me or are those bags on the T-50 larger?
    They look like the fat wetbag used on Su-34 senter stations.

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    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    External tanks T-50 2 * 1400 kg and 2 * 1500 or 1800 kg in weapons bay
    At the Su-34 under the fuselage 1 * 2400 kg.

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    So let's hope is only for test and the definitive ones would be more stealth.

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    ^^ In what sense , I see it as stealthy and that bird could be.

    May be for optics they can put a seratted nozzle and crowd can jump and says its now stealthy
    "A map does you no good if you don't know where you are"

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    I'm talking about the drop tanks.

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    Does it really need them?

    We don't see Su-35 with drop tanks ever, and from Pogo:

    "While the Su-27 can do around 600-700km @ supersonic speed, the T-50 manages over 1500km at supersonic speeds. While subsonic range is close to 3500km."
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    Quote Originally Posted by haavarla
    They look like the fat wetbag used on Su-34 senter stations.
    PTB-3000? Nope, these do not seem to have the horizontal surfaces on front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paralay
    External tanks T-50 2 * 1400 kg and 2 * 1500 or 1800 kg in weapons bay
    What is the designation? PTB-xxxx ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    PTB-3000? Nope, these do not seem to have the horizontal surfaces on front.
    True. But they look very Similar. Perhaps a bit early for seperation test on wetbags?

    Edit:
    Scratch that, they are not even similar.. this is a new type of wetbags:

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    Подвесной Топливный Бак (ПТБ) , Suspension or Hanging Fuel Tank
    ПТБ-3000 (3000 liters), weight of fuel 2525 kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere
    Is it just me or are those bags on the T-50 larger?
    I don't think it's possible to tell that from the T-50 photo, due to the angle. Also, consider the shape - while a continuous curvature spindle shape is probably less draggy, the J-20 tanks have a cylindrical centre section, so even if they are shorter and have a smaller maximum diameter, they might contain as much or more fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paralay
    Подвесной Топливный Бак (ПТБ) , Suspension or Hanging Fuel Tank
    ПТБ-3000 (3000 liters), weight of fuel 2525 kg
    No, I mean these smaller ones under the T-50..

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    ПТБ-2000, ~ 1500 - 2000 kg fuel. Volume 3-D model - 2.375 m3

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    Rrrrright.. that's the one.. PTB-2000


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    Anyone got info regd. the smart 30mm rounds for PAK-FA? I remember having read about rounds with polymer shells enabling automated guidance or something like that..

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