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    The 2017 General Election thread

    Might as well start this thread early..

    So, all the polls are pointing to a Tory Landslide - its going to be an interesting seven weeks...

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    More than likely, they won convincingly last time and the opposition is even worse this time and I think, in terms of constituencies, the Brexit vote was a 67% majority as regards seats.

    I also predict the SNP will lose seats because at the current oil prices, Scots are slowly latching on to the fact that an independent Scotland with a 10% deficit and Greek style borrowing rates paying its full debt interest isn't fiscally feasible.

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    Yes, agree with that.

    My suspicion is that we will see a lower turn out, and that the youth vote might have an influence on overall figures, and make Labours position slightly less bad than it would otherwise be. I also think the Lib Dems will overtake UKIP, though this is not currently showing in polls nationwide.

    If the SNP lose seats to Tories or Lib Dems, this will be seen as a reason to shelve IndyRef2.

    51 days to go..

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    Saint Teresa has really put the cat amongst the pigeons, Brother Jeremy of Islington will cackle about insanely out of his rear as usual, while Tiny Tim will leap about like a demented Jack in the Box. Tim will do best, most likely trebling or quadrupling the number of useless L-D's, Jeremy will be cast into outer darkness while the Wicked Witch of the North will go screeching off into the Highlands, hopefully never to be heard of again. Saint Teresa meanwhile will serenely carry on as Queen Bee and we'll all live happily everafter.

    Some hope.
    Man is not lost. Only temporarily uncertain of his position.

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    My prediction?

    We are just minutes away from a John Green posting telling us Nigel's day has come at last.

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    Indeed - and that he will be standing as a candidate, as promised?

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    Who? John or Nigel?

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    "What you must remember" Flip said "is that nine-tenths of Cattermole's charm lies beneath the surface." Many agreed.

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    John

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    Well, Nige was off the Italian coast fishing for an endangered species of fish(classy-not) when he got the news perhaps John was off the coast of Sussex fishing for a constituency?

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    Day 50 begins, and the latest polls, taken after the announcement suggest an even stronger showing for the Tories. A landslide isn't only possible, but highly probable. Meanwhile, the Labour party, by all accounts don't yet have a slogan, or, indeed any money.

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    One wonders how long comrade Corbyn will survive post election, if indeed they do not try to get shot of him before, there are already murmurings over him agreeing and signing the labour party up to the election as a lot of Labour MPs' must be worried about their futures.

    Also if the defeat is as bad as expected and he has no doubt fallen on his sword along with those that hopefully will follow him... Diana Abbot etc.
    Will Momentum rename themselves Deceleration and cease to exist as the old guard seek to expunge themselves of the Corbyn legacy and re-establish the party.

    I see Jimmy Krankie in Scotland bleating on that May has made a political blunder, so obviously if the First Minister thinks so, May has obviously got it right.


    Ohh I would love to see Scotland wake up to the SNP and smell the coffee and fail to re-elect some of their MPs'.. At least one thing is for sure, the SNP will HAVE to finally lay their cards on the table and show exactly what their manifesto is, something that may damage them in the long run.


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    Quite a number of MP's stepping down already, including two former chancellors and a shadow chancellor. Clarke and Osborne for the Tories, and Alan Johnson for Labour.
    Last edited by Bruce; 19th April 2017 at 16:10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyT View Post
    At least one thing is for sure, the SNP will HAVE to finally lay their cards on the table and show exactly what their manifesto is, something that may damage them in the long run.


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    Completely agree. I think some people were voting for the SNP hoping they'd get a good bargain for Scotland by threatening to go but people have now started realising that they've got all they're going to get, it's one heck of a deal at current oil prices and leaving is more of a threat to them. I can't wait to see the SNP's fiscal plan for an independent Scotland either. That should be hilarious. There's just no way of having one without lots of cuts and higher taxes.

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    I am surprised this thread isn't a furore of heated debate... seems rather dull compared to some Political debates we have had..

    I hear Farage is probably not standing, thus leaving a vacancy for John

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    I guess it's such a foregone conclusion that nobody is really very interested?

    For me the most amusing thing so far has been this priceless interview on R4

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39659304?SThisFB

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    So, will Jeremy Corbyn finally step down after this election?

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    Does anybody care?

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    Time to save Manston airfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy C View Post
    Does anybody care?
    Yes............

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    The level of debate in general seems to be a lot lower. Perhaps it signifies that many believe the result is a foregone conclusion - which it isn't.

    Corbyn has apparently said he will stay on whatever happens. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post

    Corbyn has apparently said he will stay on whatever happens.
    Squatter's rights?

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    His mandate, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Planemike View Post
    Yes............
    I'd be interested to know why Corbyn's fate is a matter of concern to you?

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    Is this election a cynical way for May to abandon brexit?
    The election gives the remainers the opportunity to vote for a remain party.
    That party could either lesson the Brexit blow or even try to reverse it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    His mandate, no doubt.
    Corbyn is just a symptom. Labours problem is the membership (which has been swelled by large numbers of socialists and communists in recent years), and their method of selecting and electing leaders. If Corbyn goes, the membership will just elect another left winger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hampden98 View Post
    Is this election a cynical way for May to abandon brexit?
    The election gives the remainers the opportunity to vote for a remain party.
    That party could either lesson the Brexit blow or even try to reverse it.
    The only remain parties are the Lib Dems, SNP (Scotland only) and Green Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy C View Post
    I'd be interested to know why Corbyn's fate is a matter of concern to you?

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    People want an effective opposition if there comes a need to rein in Tory privatisation plans. Corbyn is anything but effective, except to 260,000 people, out of an electorate of 40 million. To put things in perspective, 15 times as many people voted for UKIP in the last election compared to the number of people that won Corbyn his post. The problem is the system, the vote for party leader needs to extend beyond the membership of the labour party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j_jza80 View Post
    Corbyn is just a symptom. Labours problem is the membership (which has been swelled by large numbers of socialists and communists in recent years), and their method of selecting and electing leaders. If Corbyn goes, the membership will just elect another left winger.
    Quite right - unless they change the system before another election, they are locked into a deepening spiral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    People want an effective opposition if there comes a need to rein in Tory privatisation plans. Corbyn in anything but effective, except to 260,000 people, out of an electorate of 40 million. To put things in perspective, 15 times as many people voted for UKIP in the last election compared to the number of people that won Corbyn his post. The problem is the system, the vote for party leader needs to extend beyond the membership of the labour party.
    The vote for party leader needs to concentrate on ability to lead, not ability to say nice comforting things to people who don't see the big picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moggy C View Post
    I'd be interested to know why Corbyn's fate is a matter of concern to you?

    Moggy
    Did not say Mr Corbyn's fate was a matter of concern to me.

    Does anybody care?
    Moggy, you asked if anybody cared. I am sure there are folk out there who do care.
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