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    India joining the MTCR, and suddenly BrahMos range is massively increasing.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/11/brahmos/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    sad news indeed. He was obviously competent in that role. Perhaps it's time now to have someone coming from the industry? I mean, with the priority given to MII, what better to fit the bill than this?
    Doesn't work that way. In the US-type presidential system, any individual can be appointed to head a department, after being nominated by the President & affirmed by the Senate. In a British-type parliamentary system (as it exists in India), only members of the parliament can serve in the council of ministers.

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    Thanks for the update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y-20 Bacon View Post
    What should happen next is India changing its Rafale order for Rafale Ms. maybe the IAF doesn't seem keen on it, but the IN seem much more open as reports show they're not keen on their 29ks.
    good point. It's feasible on the production point of view (>24 months) and Dassault could be satisfieed by the jump from 36 to 54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    India joining the MTCR, and suddenly BrahMos range is massively increasing.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/11/brahmos/
    It was always supposed to be full range as hinted umpteen times. It's just official now.

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    India mulls Ilyushin airlifter and tanker upgrades

    The Ilyushin Design Bureau has reported progress with Indian defense officials on agreeing an upgrade and life extension for that country’s Il-76/78 fleet. It also has offered India the upgraded Il-78MD-90A aerial tanker, and licensed production of the Ilyushin Il-114-300 regional turboprop for both civil and military missions.

    At the recent Aero India show, the Indian defense ministry made public its “decision in principle” made earlier this year for a lifetime extension (up to 40 years) and a modernization of the 16 Il-76MD airlifters and eight Il-78MKI aerial tankers already in Indian Air Force (IAF) service. A similar decision is expected soon for the five Il-38SD anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft serving with the Indian Navy.

    The Il-114 license offer was made during the show. Production of the type is being restarted at the new location of Lukhovitsy, south of Moscow. According to Russian negotiators, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has signaled an intent to produce both civilian and military versions of the Il-114 under the Make in India program. The two sides are discussing ways HAL and other Indian companies can supply parts and components to Russia for completion of newly made Il-114s. The issue is expected to be discussed in detail during the next meeting of the inter-government commission on military-technical cooperation.

    The Il-114-300 is viewed as a platform for development of a next-generation ASW aircraft to replace the Il-38 whose production discontinued in 1972. The Indian navy has been operating the Il-38SD version since 2010, when its first aircraft underwent a lifetime-extension and modernization program in Russia. But there were extensive delays and performance shortcomings, although these issues have since been resolved. The navy’s five remaining Il-38s are soon due for maintenance, during which they can receive upgrades similar to those now being made to the Russian navy’s Il-38Ns, with the more advanced Novella P-38 sensor suite.

    Meantime, following India’s ditching of earlier plans to purchase the Airbus A330 Multi-Role Tanker Transport, the Russian proposal based on the re-engined version of the Il-76 airlifter is again under consideration in New Delhi. The first Il-78MD-90A tanker powered by four Aviadvigatel/Perm Motors PS-90A76 turbofans is taking shape at Ulyanovsk-SP factory. In addition to the engines, it differs from the IAF’s current Il-78MKIs in having UPAZ aerial refueling apparatus redesigned for high fuel transfer rates.

    The IAF already uses the new PS-90 turbofans, since they are installed on the three A-50EI versions of the Il-76 that were delivered to India by Beriev for the Airborne Early Warning and Cobtrol (AEW&C) mission. These have been demonstrating satisfactory readiness, which suggests that the IAF Il-76 upgrade will also include replacement of the existing D-30KP engines with the PS-90. Ilyushin is also hoping to sell some new-build Il-76MD-90As to the IAF.

    At Aero India, Indian officials confirmed their intention to continue buying the A50EI AEW&C aircraft beyond the two additional ones that are now being completed in Russia at Taganrog. The A-50EI houses an Israeli radar system, the IAI/Elta EL/W-2090 Phalcon.

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    Speaking of Il-76, recent pic, Russia:





    I will personally be shocked if Il-114 actually goes anywhere, but stranger things have happened.
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    India and Russia on Friday signed two long-terms support agreements for the Sukhoi Su-30MKI combat aircraft fleet, which is the mainstay of the Indian Air Force (IAF).

    Both countries signed two agreements in the presence of Defence Minister Arun Jaitley and Russian Trade Minister Denis Manturov.

    The agreements include an upgraded schedule for delivery of spares from Russia for these jets, local manufacturing of parts and a proposed logistics hub for the fighter jets in Bengaluru by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL).
    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/art...-su_30mki.html

    Is this going to transform SU-30MKI availability? Hope so.
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    So this mean, that HAL failed in servicing IAF Su-30MKI, which they are "producing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinblade View Post
    It was always supposed to be full range as hinted umpteen times. It's just official now.
    So what now for export prospects? Can they export cruise missiles with 300km+ range?

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    https://twitter.com/delhidefence/sta...083648/photo/1

    Import Content of various HAL products as released by the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buran View Post
    So what now for export prospects? Can they export cruise missiles with 300km+ range?
    They can't export missiles past a certain range to non-treaty signatories.
    Now that India is in the treaty, the real range of Yakho---err, BrahMos can be utilized.
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    Speak of the devil:

    https://lenta.ru/news/2017/03/21/brahmos/

    BarhMos rep @ LIMA 2017 said the first contract will be signed this year, for an unspecified export customer.
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    NEW DELHI*—*India's effort to boost the private sector defense industry by exclusively providing big-ticket orders on nomination basis through the enactment of the Strategic Partners policy faces delays.

    The current finance minister, Arun Jaitley, who on March 13 also became the country's defense minister, wants to make sweeping changes in this space.
    http://www.defensenews.com/articles/...s-policy-delay

    presumably this could also delay the "single-engine" fighter competition?

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    Russia, India terminate joint MTA programme, says report

    The Indo-Russian programme to develop the Multirole Transport Aircraft (MTA) has been terminated, the TASS news agency reported on 24 March.

    "Not all projects yield results," Russia's Minister for Industry and Trade, Denis Manturov, was quoted by the media outlet as saying in reply to a question about whether the joint development of the MTA had been terminated. "During the execution of the project, which lasted five years, we did not manage to find such a solution that would be beneficial for the two countries."

    "This does not mean that the relations have been broken off," he added.

    Manturov said Russia will move to other "more interesting projects" being carried out with India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
    http://www.janes.com/article/69037/r...me-says-report
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    http://thediplomat.com/2017/03/india...al-terminated/

    The Indian Air Force is not happy with the selection of the PD-14M turbofan engines and other technical decisions taken by Russian engineers. (Most importantly, India wants the MTA to operate in higher altitudes than the current technical configuration would allow.) The Russian side also wants to increase the program development budget, something that India vehemently opposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    http://thediplomat.com/2017/03/india...al-terminated/

    The Indian Air Force is not happy with the selection of the PD-14M turbofan engines and other technical decisions taken by Russian engineers. (Most importantly, India wants the MTA to operate in higher altitudes than the current technical configuration would allow.) The Russian side also wants to increase the program development budget, something that India vehemently opposes.


    But in the end India surely has not the option to go alone. So yet again another off-the-shelf purchase ??

    And what possible types could replace the MTO ? The C-390, the An-178 ??
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    http://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/new...da/383308.html


    IAF may have ordered another 6 Netra aew&cs systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deino View Post
    But in the end India surely has not the option to go alone. So yet again another off-the-shelf purchase ??

    And what possible types could replace the MTO ? The C-390, the An-178 ??
    C-130J obviously. 12 already scheduled to enter service. Logistically sensible to just set up a local assembly line and order another 2 dozen.

    That's if an MTA class transporter is really a necessity, an idea that isn't set in stone. There's a fair argument to be made that a larger number of C-295s along with the existing C-130s & C-17s would suffice instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnomad View Post
    C-130J obviously. 12 already scheduled to enter service. Logistically sensible to just set up a local assembly line and order another 2 dozen.

    That's if an MTA class transporter is really a necessity, an idea that isn't set in stone. There's a fair argument to be made that a larger number of C-295s along with the existing C-130s & C-17s would suffice instead.
    And obviously C130 price will rise due to lower production rates and LM need higher profits from other production lines beside F35.

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