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Thread: Duxford Diary (2017)

  1. #451
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    'Anyone seen 'Yellow10's' new paintwork, a very weathered desert camo 'Red 8' scheme? No doubt someone'll post pics soon. '

    Some here Southern Air99

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    Aha! excellent, it looks fantastic I must say.

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    Wednesday 21st June

    The Duxford based Buchon was out in appropriate heat and sunshine today in a new heavily weathered desert paint scheme to represent Messerschmitt Bf109 E-7 "Black 8" as flown by Leutnant Werner Schroer of Jagdgeschwader JG-27, Ain El Gazala, Libya in April 1941.



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    Wow, they certainly have had fun there! Very, very neat to see, and darn convincing too. With everything to take in, it can actually momentarily take your mind off of the fact that it is a Buchon. (I wonder if they were inspired by how well the GateGuards Bf-109E turned out, which was completed with a load of weathering - paint chips, fake mud, stains, etc.)
    Last edited by JohnTerrell; 21st June 2017 at 15:47.

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    Saw the photos on Facebook earlier. Must say, I rather like it!
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    Duxford Wednesday 21st June:

    Yellow 10 is now Black 8 (or is it Red 8?). The weathered look is very convincing indeed, and should be an interesting comparison with the immaculate Frenesi and Berlin Express in 17 days.







    The DAS ex Aurigny Trislander G-BEVT arrived at 1000 this morning from Guernsey. She is expected to spend a few days on the Eastern Apron.











    It was good to see the return of two Duxford regulars today:





    Visitors today included a TBM700 from the French Air Force and an AW139 of the Dubai Air Wing:






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    The Duxford based Buchon was out in appropriate heat and sunshine today in a new heavily weathered desert paint scheme to represent Messerschmitt Bf109 E-7 "Black 8" as flown by Leutnant Werner Schroer of Jagdgeschwader JG-27, Ain El Gazala, Libya in April 1941.
    Love the weathered finish on this.......... would love to see this done more often.

    Isn't this the second time a Buchon has been done in the markings of Werner Schroer?
    IIRC a Buchon was done some years back as his Red 1 with red rudder, from when he was Staffelkapitan 8./JG27 on Rhodes in 1943.
    Schroer is probably little known among many, but he was in an elite group of only 8 Luftwaffe pilots to score over a hundred victories solely against Allied aircraft in the west (ETO/MTO/North Africa)
    I was with it all the way until letting the brakes off..........

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    Although I like the weathered look of the Buchon, I have the feeling that it has been overdone a bit too much ........
    Last edited by Jur; 22nd June 2017 at 07:28.
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    I have read elsewhere that Black 8 was Franz Elles aircraft and that Schroer only flew it a couple of time.

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    Duxford -- Thursday 22/6/17

    More engine runs from the Lancaster early this afternoon.

    PA474 by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    PA474 by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    PA474 by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman

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    I didn't know Armstrong-Whitworth were involved in this heliochopper business

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    Duxford Friday 23rd June:

    FL25 - 15

    First arrival for Flying Legends (some assembly required):



    Spitfire IA G-AIST/P7308 had black/white underwing colours applied today:



    Also repainted is replica Spitfire 'X4178':



    TFC's Harvard and P-36C were engine running:





    The P-40C flew a sortie for the IWM photo day:







    P-51D 'KH774' and Spitfire PV202 flew, Spitfire SM845 was also on the move:









    Some of today's visitors including Hornet Moth G-AELO:










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    This morning Buchon 'Black 8 ' departed to Bicester for the weekend.

    G-AWHK Black 8 dept to Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    G-AWHK Black 8 dept to Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    G-AWHK Black 8 dept to Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman

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    I do rather like that!
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    Loving the Buchon's new desert "camo". Now what we need is a P40 in 112 squadron markings for some potentially amazing air to air photo opportunities.

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    Saturday 24th June

    Another Spitfire (+ Buchon) Saturday at Duxford. MH434 and the Buchon went off to Bicester for the weekend to take part in the Flywheel Festival being held there. Back Sunday. PV202 and N3200 were flying with Classic Wings and MV268 of Anglia Aircraft Restorations Ltd flew off to Sywell for the afternoon.













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    Duxford Saturday 24th June:

    FL25-14

    Desert camouflage is rapidly becoming very effective at Duxford as drought conditions continue:



    'Black 8' is likely to get shot down a lot at Bicester this weekend:





    G-SPIT/MV268 was one of 4 Spitfires flying today:



    Some of today's visitors, Autocar G-APUW, MD.900 G-HAAT and Calidus G-LISS:






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    We made a quick pit stop at Duxford on our return from North Wales today.

    This little fella came in just as we arrived




    The Jungmann was enjoying some aerobatics
    Engine Failure:.... A condition which occurs when all fuel tanks mysteriously become filled with air.

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    Write up on the Trislander on the DAS webpage -
    http://das.org.uk/duxford-aviation-s...-its-new-baby/
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    Buchon 'Black 8' and Spitfire MH434 returned from Bicester late afternoon.

    G-AWHK Black 8 return from Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    G-AWHK Black 8 return from Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    MH434 return from Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    G-AWHK Black 8 return from Bicester by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman

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    The TFC Corsair took to the air today for 2 sorties.

    G-FGID by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    G-FGID by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    .. whilst visiting was Miles Gemini G-AKKH

    G-AKKH by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    G-AKKH by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

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    Wonderful to see Gemima the Gemini back at Duxford, where she lived in the early 80s with Mike Russell. Looking good!

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    Frenesi makes an appearance

    NL357FG Frenesi assembly by AJCDuxman, on Flickr

    Duxman

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    Soooo nice to see a 357th machine return to hangar 2. Just a shame it's not MOOSE

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    As one can see, the restoration of "Frenesi" is on-par with the finest/most authentic to emerge from Midwest Aero Restorations (even more evident when you look in the cockpit or into the gear wells) - in the above photo, the armor plate/seat has not been installed yet. The restoration was completed back in January of this year - the latest restoration to emerge from that shop. The airframe itself originally was built as an F-6K, but has been restored as a generic/standard late-model P-51D. The paint scheme is that worn originally by a P-51D-5-NA, the first production variant of the 'D', and while the airframe lacks some details of those early production variants (obviously they can't fly it without the dorsal fin fillet), it has an N-9 reflector gunsight installed as those early versions did, rather than the later K-14 computing sight, and although it has the late-style instrument panel rather than the early D-5 instrument panel, the main flying instruments are outlined with a white stripe rather than yellow, as the early D/K's had (different to the mid and late production examples). If you look at the stenciling of the production block information on the side of the fuselage, you'll notice there is a curious historical typo that was copied directly from a period photograph of the original "Frenesi".
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    Just wondering as to why they can't fly with out the dorsal fin fillet?

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    Great to see 'Frensi' has arrived.

    Look forward to seeing her on the 9th of July!

    (And of course 'Berlin Express').

    And thanks as always John for the history on her rebuild.

    R4118,

    As you probably are aware, the P51D-5 was the first production D model, and like the B/C and earlier Allison powered P-51s, didn't have the dorsal fin fitted.

    As time went on and the D-5 was used in service/combat, it was found that at high speeds, the directional stability was poor, and the rudder forces lightened up with excessive yaw angles being obtained, along with rudder reversals occurring with the potential for an unintended flick roll, or at worse, possible structural failure of the tail plane.

    So in late 1944, a Technical Order (T.O.) was issued to fit a dorsal fin to all existing D-5 airframes, as well as existing B/Cs as well.

    (There was also a T.O. issued to strengthen the horizontal stabilizer as well).

    The fin fillet modification also included the fitting of what was called a 'Reverse Boost' or 'Anti-Balance' tab, as fitted on late Spitfire XIVs & XVIIIs with the larger chord rudder.

    It was designed to add extra force to rudder inputs, thereby stopping excessive rudder deflection and yaw angles at high speeds.

    I believe what John was saying is that the FAA would not approve a P-51D without this modification, given the potential issues without it.

    And I'm sure John can give some extra details on the dorsal fin design and the differences between the field kit installation, and the factory installed one.

    Cheers

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    My mentioning of it goes back to a discussion I read among Mustang operators, accurate or not, that the dorsal fin fillet on the P-51D/K is part the AD's/Airworthiness Directives, thus required by the FAA to fly. Also, evidently if it was simply listed as a T.O., as it is in the Limited Type Certificate for the P-51B/C, it wouldn't be required/it would be up to the owner. With the loss of side area in the low-back design of the P-51D/K, the yaw instability and resulting issues were supposedly exacerbated. The fillet corrects the yaw tendencies and according to NAA helped to strengthen the tail as well. (BTW, just such a discussion was briefly brought up when "Happy Jack's Go Buggy" was first unveiled, as it is painted to portray a D-5 as well.)

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    @ Bradburger
    Thankyou for the extensive reply! I don't know a whole lot about P51s so hadn't heard about this!

    Thankyou once again

    Joe

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    Lee Lauderback is set to be heading out from Eagle Pass, TX on his journey to Duxford with Berlin Express starting tomorrow.

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