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    Four 500 lb bombs were defused at the recovery site yesterday. They will be moved to another location to be blown up sometime next week.
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    https://twitter.com/gemeenteDFM/stat...95599853301760

    A photo of the undercarriage being raised from the lakebed.

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    And more photos here giving an impression of working conditions:

    https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2016/09/01...erper-a1518927

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    Ok so four have been found, one had been defused 1 a 2 years before the recovery, but what about the other three remaining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeBro View Post
    Ok so four have been found, one had been defused 1 a 2 years before the recovery, but what about the other three remaining?
    The three remaining ones have been defused last Thursday. I just read in my NOTAMs there's a no-fly zone today between 14:00 and 16:00 LT near Assen due to bomb detonations, so I presume they will be going BOOM later this afternoon.

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    We will be covering the full story of this in 'Britain at War' (either the November or December issues) from the Dutch authorities involved.
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    Interesting Andy, straight from the horse's mouth (The RNethAF recovery team)?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSQjbEwSjjE

    Digging in...

    Three explosions expected later today. The fourth bomb was damaged on impact, and lost its charge over the years so does not need to be blown up.

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    The Lancaster will do a flyby of the site on Monday.

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    Bit of a lack luster afair that one going up...
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    Yes, the last announced flybys were taken over by the Dak, but its the thought that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeBro View Post
    Wellingtons are notoriously difficult to identify, especially in water. The aircraft is almost completely smashed up and fragmented.
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    forgive my ignorance but is this a sarcastic post? because Id of thought wellingtons would be easy to ID due to it being of a geodetic airframe? and vickers stamps etc(?)

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    I think Cees meant that individual aircraft are difficult to ID from wreckage. There is a fair number of Wellingtons in the IJsselmeer. And as a type, yes they are easy to ID.

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    Some info on R1322 crewmen & graves:

    http://www.zzairwar.nl/dossiers/56.html

    Photos of the crew, a diagram of the salvage setup, and a few other details are found by hitting Ctrl + F and searching on R1322 here:

    http://www.teunispats.nl/fr-wwii.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericmunk View Post
    I think Cees meant that individual aircraft are difficult to ID from wreckage. There is a fair number of Wellingtons in the IJsselmeer. And as a type, yes they are easy to ID.
    That's indeed what I meant.

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    http://www.lc.nl/friesland/Eresaluut...-21642600.html

    Lanc fly-by from today, with a class of school children amongst the audience.

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    Very fitting, I hope it will return for a similar flyby in a few years time. Last saturday I was cleaning some wreckage from a Lancaster that also lies in the IJsselmeer with three missing aircrew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CeBro View Post
    Very fitting, I hope it will return for a similar flyby in a few years time. Last saturday I was cleaning some wreckage from a Lancaster that also lies in the IJsselmeer with three missing aircrew.
    That would be very very good. Fingers crossed.

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    fascinating thread this one. thanks to everyone for the updates.
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    I think it is fitting I'd post a couple of photos I took yesterday, at De Nieuwe Ooster cemetery in Amsterdam.

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    The grave of co-pilot Sgt. Z. Gwozdz

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    The grave of pilot Sgt. J.P. Dorman

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    This grave is of an unknown Polish Sgt., who was buried at the same time as Sgts Dorman and Gwozdz. He is thought to be one of the crewmembers of Wellington R1322, but a positive identification could not be made by the CWGC.

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    Catching up to news, in early May it was announced that all three remaining crew members of this Wellington have now been identified.

    The remains of plut. r/op. strz. (Sgt.) Henryk Franciszek Sikorski and kpt. obs. (P/O) Maciej Wojciech Socharski were recovered from the wreck site in 2016 and have now been identified. They are expected to be buried with their fellow crew members in Amsterdam in the following months.

    Partial remains of plut. r/op. strz. (Sgt.) Stanisław Pisarski were also recovered from the site in 2016, and match those in the grave of an unidentified Polish airman in Amsterdam (above), leading to a positive identification. The nameless headstone is expected to be replaced with one bearing his name.

    Overall an excellent outcome I would say...

    (background information http://www.polishwargraves.nl/ned/r.1322.htm)

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    Thanks for the update, that's good to hear.

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