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Thread: RuAF News and development Thread part 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkut
    That wasnt obvious at all from your comment. Plenty of people write SU-XX because they dont know better.
    Tomato/tomato we all know we are talkiing about a fruit passing for a vegetable in the end (ala MIG/MiG). I am more upset about the T-50 thread going ...

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    Maybe now with the new designation out we should simply start a new one ?
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    My working week and my Sunday rest,
    My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
    I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

    The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
    Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
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    Russian Aerospace Forces to Receive 400 Planes, Helicopters Annually Until 2025

    Russian Aerospace Forces will receive about 400 planes and helicopters per year in accordance with the new state armaments program for 2018-2025, Russian Aerospace Forces Commander Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev said.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The state armaments program for 2018-2025 envisages reequipping the army and naval forces in accordance with assessment of possible threats to the country's national security.

    "This year we have received over 100 planes and about 300 helicopters," Bondarev told the Zvezda channel in an interview, adding that such a pace will continue in accordance with the program.

    Initially, the 10-year program should have been adopted in 2015, but this was delayed due to economic turbulence that hit the country the year before.
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    Today is the 105th anniversary of RuAF. Happy birthday and best wishes to all our airmen!

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    I watched it with a cup of Coffey. It was awesome indeed!

    But that RT cameraman should be shot..
    hopefully there will be others with better skills
    Last edited by haavarla; 12th August 2017 at 13:48.
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    Russian Aerospace Forces to Receive 400 Planes, Helicopters Annually Until 2025

    Russian Aerospace Forces will receive about 400 planes and helicopters per year in accordance with the new state armaments program for 2018-2025, Russian Aerospace Forces Commander Col. Gen. Viktor Bondarev said.
    What consitutes the majority of the aircraft deliveries? BMPD has the number of combat aircraft delivered declining since 2014.
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2358587.html

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    ^^ All sorts of aircraft. Transport, Cargo, MPA, AWACS, ELINT, Trainers and fighters
    Well "Declining" seems to be the new Black these days. Happening all over the globe.

    The good news is new and better aircrafts.
    On the same a lot of upgrades as well.
    Last edited by haavarla; 13th August 2017 at 09:09.
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    That BMPD chart is not "really" correct- for example the 24 Su-35s included planes that really were handed over the year before, they just counted them in for 2014.
    Same with the MiG-29SMTs, it was 8 per year, just playing around with dates.

    IDK how he got 300 helicopters though.
    "Russian Helicopters" in its entirety is producing somewhat under that number for the past couple of years.
    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    I doubt the are making less than 300. Most of announcements are disinformation either way. I read Syrians got some Mi24P. The scale of operations that need helicopter support is now bigger than static fight that US did in afgan/Irak combined.

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    That BMPD chart is not "really" correct- for example the 24 Su-35s included planes that really were handed over the year before, they just counted them in for 2014.
    Same with the MiG-29SMTs, it was 8 per year, just playing around with dates.

    IDK how he got 300 helicopters though.
    "Russian Helicopters" in its entirety is producing somewhat under that number for the past couple of years.
    Afaik the BMPD charts has never been correct. always over the top in numbers.

    When we look at other sources and the number of Air Regiments spread across different Air Bases in VKS, it gives us a much better overview.
    One interesting aspect though.. the Aviatsiya Voenno-morskovo Flota Rossii looks like its regenerating quite nicely, getting new units and stuff.
    Last edited by haavarla; 13th August 2017 at 00:05.
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    BMPD has good info, that chart isn't even theirs. Just "New Years" deliveries being a little wonky, as they are in practice.

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2784601.html

    Another 3 MiG-31s modernizes. Total modernized @ Sokol and the 514th ARZ is now over 110.
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    With the Pak Fa now having an official name Su-57 what will it's NATO (ASIC) reporting name be? Given the famous description of the Pak Fa by a Russian official before pictures of T-51 first appeared as looking like a squashed frog is there a word in the English language that means squashed frog or something similar starting with the letter "F" ? Will NATO wait and see if the Russians/Indians give the Su-57 a non Su name.

    The best two names I have read so far on another forum are Firefox and Phantom (not an actual "f" but pronounced as such). Firefox though does not actually imply stealth & phantom has already been taken. The best ASIC reporting name I can think of is Flounder, it is a flat predator fish that likes to blend in with it's environment (stealth).

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    Something starting with Fire.. Firebat.
    Or Fetcher, Fletcher, Farwell
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    PAK-FA Myth Busting

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    The number of 400 aircraft/helicopter per year also includes aircraft that gets upgraded each year all the 400 does not include new but also upgrades that take place each year.
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    PAK-FA Myth Busting
    This video has been posted for many times and despite its title, it's just replacing one myths with another.

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    Scar #3887
    This video has been posted for many times and despite its title, it's just replacing one myths with another.
    "Prospective" is a key word - Scar can you think of an ASIC code word for the Su-57 that translates as prospective beginning with the letter "F" ?

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    Dunno how this is related to my post and, honestly, i don't care how it will be called by NATO.

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    "Prospective" is a key word - Scar can you think of an ASIC code word for the Su-57 that translates as prospective beginning with the letter "F" ?
    The choice of ASIC code seems to be a completely random process - they usually choose the weirdest words: Faggöt, Fresco, Farmer, Fishbed, etc. Do Russian aircraft still receive ASIC codes today - and who uses them?
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    I will take the wait and see approach as to what the Su-57's NATO name will be, whether or not I will like it is another thing entirely.

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    Myths about myths. Also some misinformation perhaps? Have we got a figure for the F-22's maximum thrust levels at full afterburner? If we don't have this figure how can we possibly calculate its thrust-to-weight figure?

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    I dont know if this is maximum thrust but LM site so mentions thrust of F-22 @ 15,876 kg

    http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/pro...fications.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    PAK-FA Myth Busting

    One does not counter bullcrap with more bullcrap like the video is doing. This is like the third time I've seen this garbage posted.

    Lol nonsense 384 m/s climb rate was repeated. Sources from a Facebook post. Seems legit.
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    Something for Ken to try one of these days. Would love to see it.



    Looks like it would be a painstaking masking job, except this guy (his name's Budanov so cred to him) appears to have used a sharpie or something to get the edges alright (note the variation in color)

    Are there any decent 1:48's out there by the way?
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    I have also seen 15.300 and 15.600kgf on the F119 engine.
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    Regardless of what you have "seen", all the service and manufacturer has ever stated is "35,000lbs thrust class". The rest is armchair speculation.

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    An F-22 pilot did slip at some point with a more precise number, about 39k lbf iirc or 17700 kgf. Thinking that F-119's are 35k lbf is laughable. They are 35k lbf class and F-22 is a Mach 2 class aircraft, and we know it goes far faster than Mach 2.00.

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    Sooooh.. the F-22 "need" 17700kgf to push above Mach 2.0 now??

    Need i remind people the Mig-31 engines has 15.100kgf.

    I'd say 17700kgf is BS.
    The Dynamic thrust is not the same as Static thrust, and all jet engines are measured in Static thrust.
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